Announcement about RDF Part 3.

[Ilovelucy]

But I've been told no one takes them 'seriously' so there's nothing to worry about... /sarcasm

Fundies or the RRS? Both the same in my book. Still, I apologise for the curt dismissal of your efforts. We need to get the information out wherever we can. I'm just blowing hot and cold at the moment. Don't take me seriously either

[fuck you & fuck your god]

Well, as expected, the woo-gangsters have sniffed blood & are breaking out the champagne bottles:
http://christwire.org/2010/02/christian ... et-forums/
"Christian Prayer Forces Atheist Richard Dawkins to Close RichardDawkins.Net Forums
For years we warned atheists that we would take down their site entitled RichardDawkins.net, by the power prayer.
The atheists laughed and said prayer did not exist. They cursed us and said there was no God. I warned them time and again, and now, we see the true power of God as he has closed their sinful site, RichardDawkins.net.
For those of you who do not know, Richard Dawkins is one of the worst offenders before God. He promotes bestial relations. He thinks that a “less evolved” human man and a monkey woman had sexual relations to create us.
Evolutionists believe monkeys and humans procreated to give rise to you and me, and that this type of behavior is normal. That is why atheists also believe in such nonsense as homunculus, animals in the womb and why Richard Dawkins cusses in the face of Christians.
God has had enough of atheists and has heard our prayers. I would like to take this time to thank all of you who helped us organize the ChristWire Against Dawkins network.
... Those who stand against God stand against America, freedom and humanity. It is a blessing to see the atheists cursed and to know that a person filled with so much vitriolic hate as Richard Dawkins is have a miserable day. Glory.
When I organized the first ChristWire prayer day against Dawkins, this is the day of triumph I was shown. Praise to our Father."
It seems there's also a lot of disinformation being spread by RDF about the reasons for the lock-out.

Really sharp people at that site, where they dis Neile De Grasse Tyson, going so far as to put astrophysicist in "", here in piece Richard Dawkins Indirectly Tells All Christians To ‘F**K Off.

Their tirade against Tyson: Neile De Grasse Tyson Does Not Understand Astrophysics, Life, Space or God is particularly hilarious, video at link:

Every once in a while it is fun to post videos of extreme scientists, who are so pathetically wrong in their narrow worldview that you can’t help but have pity on them.

We’ve discussed the failures of proud atheist Richard Dawkins many times, namely when discussing the lies he molds about the spotty theory of evolution.

You would think no one could outdo Dawkins on the idiocy scale, but an astrophysicist (read, kooky science with little merit) Neil De Grasse Tyson is bent on giving him a run for his money.

This guy think he has the answer to everything and has a big aura of self-entitlement, for obvious reasons. In this little tirade, Tyson attempts to disprove God in the most fallacious way possible.

I guess at tarot astrophysicist school, they do not teach the little saplings about the importance of logic in debate. This guy is just all over the place and does not make sense.

Tyson attempts to use the fact that the universe, mind you to places where no one has even traveled to make the ‘precious’ empirical observations, necessarily proves there is no God because it cannot sustain life. News flash, Tyson. The Bible tells us that in the beginning God created man on Earth, not in deep space. Why would you expect space to be hospitable for humans, when the home of all life is Earth?

Then this lowbrow yokel has the nerve to say that the weather patterns on Earth, such as tsunamis, are more proof that there is not a God or intelligent design! Fallacy, fallacy, fallacy!

It continues in this ridiculous manner and if you look closely, you’ll also note Richard Dawkins is out in the audience totally eating up this horrible rant from Tyson. Tyson is also dangerous because he tries to make it seem like he understands the truth about creationism, but really he wants to undermine Biblical authority with his make believe ‘facts’ of astrophysics. Let’s take a look at his laughable ‘lecture’:

Yes, astrophysics the "kooky science with little merit". Help me jeebus, the stupid has no end!

[NineBerry]

There is simple math involved:

They want more control with fewer mods. This can only happen by either reducing the number of users or by reducing the number of posts users write.

Conclusion: Need to bully everyone away and to scare people of writing anything. Doesn't sound like a place I want to be.

[Crazyfrog]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

[klr]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

[Ilovelucy]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If it all gets too crazy, Josh will probably fire someone under him and then make himself look like the hero who sorted it all out. I hear he's done that a few times.

[klr]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If it all gets too crazy, Josh will probably fire someone under him and then make himself look like the hero who sorted it all out. I hear he's done that a few times.

I couldn't possibly comment on this piece of analysis.

[Ilovelucy]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If it all gets too crazy, Josh will probably fire someone under him and then make himself look like the hero who sorted it all out. I hear he's done that a few times.

I couldn't possibly comment on this piece of analysis.

...but Andrew Chalkey, if you're reading this, watch your back...

[Thinking Aloud]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If RD and JT are both away ... does that not change things with regard to the ultimate source of the problem?

If Mr Timonen was sitting next to RD on the plane when all this happened, for example, is it surprising that RD strode out in his defence? What if JT didn't push the button, but someone else did - and fed him the same bull...? Do we know for sure that Josh did the deed?

[klr]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If RD and JT are both away ... does that not change things with regard to the ultimate source of the problem?

If Mr Timonen was sitting next to RD on the plane when all this happened, for example, is it surprising that RD strode out in his defence? What if JT didn't push the button, but someone else did - and fed him the same bull...? Do we know for sure that Josh did the deed?

Well, you can be anywhere in the world and still do the same thing on a computer. And just because RD and JT might have been in (relatively) close proximity doesn't mean much IMHO. RD wouldn't be overseeing his every move, he'd just let him get on with it for the most part. I admit it might change the possible dynamics a bit - after all it's strongly suspected that chalkers was the one doing most of the really destructive button-pressing. But that might be because Josh was busy with more immediate matters regarding the tour than anything else.

[hackenslash]

...but Andrew Chalkey, if you're reading this, watch your back...

We're all very excited about your career prospects.

Just in case this finds its way into a future quote mine, it was a fucking joke!!!

[Thinking Aloud]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If RD and JT are both away ... does that not change things with regard to the ultimate source of the problem?

If Mr Timonen was sitting next to RD on the plane when all this happened, for example, is it surprising that RD strode out in his defence? What if JT didn't push the button, but someone else did - and fed him the same bull...? Do we know for sure that Josh did the deed?

Well, you can be anywhere in the world and still do the same thing on a computer. And just because RD and JT might have been in (relatively) close proximity doesn't mean much IMHO. RD wouldn't be overseeing his every move, he'd just let him get on with it for the most part. I admit it might change the possible dynamics a bit - after all it's strongly suspected that chalkers was the one doing most of the really destructive button-pressing. But that might be because Josh was busy with more immediate matters regarding the tour than anything else.

I don't really know either of the characters implicated, or their style of operation. I guess I'm just wondering if, in the absense of the Big Boss and Little Boss, the "lackey", left minding the shop, and with a couple of important messages to deliver, panicked when all the customers and tellers turned and stared angrily at him.

[Crazyfrog]

I bet poor old Josh is feeling rather uncomfortable at the moment then.

Out of the country, on your own, with your boss breathing down your neck. Then your main responsibility goes completely pear shaped, as a result your boss ends up with a huge PR problem that hits the press and you (probably) don't have all the information to hand to give him answers. Also, you've got no colleagues around to talk to about it.

Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

[klr]

Anyone know when RD is due back home? After his initial outburst it's all gone very quiet.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he meets with our favourite techies, that's a monumental PR mess they created between them.

AFAIK, Josh Timonen is on tour with him, for recording video and other media-related work.

If RD and JT are both away ... does that not change things with regard to the ultimate source of the problem?

If Mr Timonen was sitting next to RD on the plane when all this happened, for example, is it surprising that RD strode out in his defence? What if JT didn't push the button, but someone else did - and fed him the same bull...? Do we know for sure that Josh did the deed?

Well, you can be anywhere in the world and still do the same thing on a computer. And just because RD and JT might have been in (relatively) close proximity doesn't mean much IMHO. RD wouldn't be overseeing his every move, he'd just let him get on with it for the most part. I admit it might change the possible dynamics a bit - after all it's strongly suspected that chalkers was the one doing most of the really destructive button-pressing. But that might be because Josh was busy with more immediate matters regarding the tour than anything else.

I don't really know either of the characters implicated, or their style of operation. I guess I'm just wondering if, in the absense of the Big Boss and Little Boss, the "lackey", left minding the shop, and with a couple of important messages to deliver, panicked when all the customers and tellers turned and stared angrily at him.

I suspect there is an element of that alright, but surely one should not place control in the hands of someone so unproven in the first place, and also in a situation where checks and balances are lacking?

I have a bit more experience with RD and JT, and I am not too surprised at the turn of events. The intrepid chalkers I have never had the pleasure of communicating with directly via any medium. Well, actually I did give him a mild ticking off for the supercilious tone of his reply to the RD.net users a few weeks ago. He never responded to that post.

[Thinking Aloud]

(Apparently it was on Radio 2 this morning ...)

Indeed I agree klr. But it might explain the strength of RD's defence of JT. Just speculation, of course.