Announcement about RDF Part 3.

[Matt H]

The worst thing about this for me is how we're not getting any closure. Just when I thought our case was made via blogs, letters and Pharyngula, it went and got published on Times Online. It looks like Josh and Andrew will succeed in pulling the wool over Richard's eyes and making us look like scum. It's really terrible.

I wish this whole thing would go away but it'll probably just get even worse in the days to come.

[Skinny Puppy]

Excellent letter and I agree with everything you said except about returning to that ‘oasis’.

Richard has shown with his recent post (Outrage) that he is either not in the loop or is doing everything that he’s professed to be against over the years. I give him no leeway whatsoever, now or in the future.

He spent years denouncing the very thing he’s engaged in now. Regardless of what he does in the future, he’s besmirched his name forever in my books. I class him now into the same category as I do rabid Christian fundamentalists that only see what they want to see and only say what they themselves want to hear.

He has lost touch with reality and is simply preaching unfounded, un-researched and unacceptable dogmatic rhetoric, yet he condemns Christians for the same narrow-mindedness that he himself is now showing.

wow...so richard is hung, drawn and already quartered. why don't you guys just drag him to the top of a hill and crucify him?

I didn't agree with the wording of dawkins "outrage" letter, but, I don't think I've witnessed such fickleness in my life. everyone's queuing up to stab richard and josh in the back....

some community. eh?

I fixed it for you.

wow...so richard the forum members and moderators are is hung, drawn and already quartered. why don't doesn’t Richard you guys just drag him all of you to the top of a hill and crucify him you?

I didn't agree with the wording of dawkins "outrage" letter, but, I don't think I've witnessed such fickleness from Richard in my life. everyone's Richard’s queuing up to stab richard and josh his followers in the back....

some community leader. eh?

[Ironclad]

Would it be inaccurate to describe this purging/rapture/''outrage'' as, Unnatural De-selection?
Just a thought that came to me last night. Seemed amusing.

[Mr.Samsa]

I know a number of people have tried messaging Richard, but after reading the "Outrage" announcement and sitting on it for a few hours, I simply can't sit back and not say anything to him. I apologise if I'm stepping on anyone's toes by sending this message, or if I've said anything that is incorrect or counterproductive, but here is what I sent:

...[snip]...

I doubt he'll read it all as it's much too long, and I seriously doubt he'll reply, but I figured I should post it here in case the next announcement is "Some Wanker Just PMed Me" - so if things get worse from this point on, it's probably my fault...

Great letter...

BTW.. how could things get worse?!

I could wake up looking like Chalkers?...

[Calilasseia]

Just addressed another ignoramus over at Pharyngula ...

[freethinkerboy]

The worst thing about this for me is how we're not getting any closure. Just when I thought our case was made via blogs, letters and Pharyngula, it went and got published on Times Online. It looks like Josh and Andrew will succeed in pulling the wool over Richard's eyes and making us look like scum. It's really terrible.

I wish this whole thing would go away but it'll probably just get even worse in the days to come.

I feel the same way, all i want is for RD to acknowledge the real version of events

but would any of you believe an angry internet mob over a real life mate ? we are asking the impossible from RD lol

if anyone is still angry-- best way to vent is i guess to boycott the new website when this all gets blown over.

[klr]

Just addressed another ignoramus over at Pharyngula ...

Fuck!! That was something else.

[Calilasseia]

it went and got published on Times Online.

Link?

[Chauncey Gardner]

Excellent letter and I agree with everything you said except about returning to that ‘oasis’.

Richard has shown with his recent post (Outrage) that he is either not in the loop or is doing everything that he’s professed to be against over the years. I give him no leeway whatsoever, now or in the future.

He spent years denouncing the very thing he’s engaged in now. Regardless of what he does in the future, he’s besmirched his name forever in my books. I class him now into the same category as I do rabid Christian fundamentalists that only see what they want to see and only say what they themselves want to hear.

He has lost touch with reality and is simply preaching unfounded, un-researched and unacceptable dogmatic rhetoric, yet he condemns Christians for the same narrow-mindedness that he himself is now showing.

wow...so richard is hung, drawn and already quartered. why don't you guys just drag him to the top of a hill and crucify him?

I didn't agree with the wording of dawkins "outrage" letter, but, I don't think I've witnessed such fickleness in my life. everyone's queuing up to stab richard and josh in the back....

some community. eh?

I fixed it for you.

wow...so richard the forum members and moderators are is hung, drawn and already quartered. why don't doesn’t Richard you guys just drag him all of you to the top of a hill and crucify him you?

I didn't agree with the wording of dawkins "outrage" letter, but, I don't think I've witnessed such fickleness from Richard in my life. everyone's Richard’s queuing up to stab richard and josh his followers in the back....

some community leader. eh?

that was wittily done, Skinny Puppy. the only problem I have with it is that some elements of the RDF have hung themselves. I notice that many of the (what I consider) more intelligent contributors to the RDF, such as pz myers and others are either keeping quiet or rallying in support of richard.

the words, empty vessels, noise and most springs to mind.

[klr]

it went and got published on Times Online.

Link?

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=9260

[gilthanass]

The worst thing about this for me is how we're not getting any closure. Just when I thought our case was made via blogs, letters and Pharyngula, it went and got published on Times Online. It looks like Josh and Andrew will succeed in pulling the wool over Richard's eyes and making us look like scum. It's really terrible.

I wish this whole thing would go away but it'll probably just get even worse in the days to come.

I feel the same way, all i want is for RD to acknowledge the real version of events

but would any of you believe an angry internet mob over a real life mate ? we are asking the impossible from RD lol

if anyone is still angry-- best way to vent is i guess to boycott the new website when this all gets blown over.

Personally, I won't do anything nearly so active as a "boycott". That said, I will not donate money to the foundation (as one of the goals of donation to me would be to support a growing atheist community, and accessibly scientific information, both of which were provided by the forum). I may check out the new "forum" at RD.net, and if it is truly worthwhile, I will probably hang around for a while. That said, I don't see myself contributing to it (I don't like the thought of having to be good enough to post) and because of that, I likely won't stay too long. Without a sense of community, there is nothing to distinguish RD.net from any other science related website on the internet.

[Matt H]

Chauncey Gardener, why the fuck are you here?

[GeneticJen]

Spoke on the phone with the Times Online author. Interesting view on the whole thing. Obviously knows who Dawkins is more than the average person you would pull off the street, although Richard did become a bit of a caricature in the discussion (angry atheist etc).

[klr]

Spoke on the phone with the Times Online author. Interesting view on the whole thing. Obviously knows who Dawkins is more than the average person you would pull off the street, although Richard did become a bit of a caricature in the discussion (angry atheist etc).

Damn. Now that is interesting, to say the least.

[Flora]

Spoke on the phone with the Times Online author. Interesting view on the whole thing. Obviously knows who Dawkins is more than the average person you would pull off the street, although Richard did become a bit of a caricature in the discussion (angry atheist etc).

Well done Peter.