If you vote Tory I'm going to murder you.

[Horwood Beer-Master]

Funnily enough, it was the church that made it a sin for an individual to make money 'above his station'.

Is this relevant?

[Hermit]

Funnily enough, it was the church that made it a sin for an individual to make money 'above his station'.

Is this relevant?

It's not just irrelevant. It is also wrong. 'The church' has used the bible's Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25:14-30; Luke 19:12-28) to approve capitalism and everything it stands for quite some time now.

• 13 “Therefore stay alert, because you do not know the day or the hour. 14 For it is like a man going on a journey, who summoned his slaves and entrusted his property to them. 15 To one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. 16 The one who had received five talents went off right away and put his money to work and gained five more. 17 In the same way, the one who had two gained two more. 18 But the one who had received one talent went out and dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money in it. 19 After a long time, the master of those slaves came and settled his accounts with them. 20 The one who had received the five talents came and brought five more, saying, ‘Sir, you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.’ 21 His master answered, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You have been faithful in a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 The one with the two talents also came and said, ‘Sir, you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more.’ 23 His master answered, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You have been faithful with a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 24 Then the one who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Sir, I knew that you were a hard man, harvesting where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not scatter seed, 25 so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. See, you have what is yours.’ 26 But his master answered, ‘Evil and lazy slave! So you knew that I harvest where I didn’t sow and gather where I didn’t scatter? 27 Then you should have deposited my money with the bankers, and on my return I would have received my money back with interest! 28 Therefore take the talent from him and give it to the one who has ten. 29 For the one who has will be given more, and he will have more than enough. But the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 30 And throw that worthless slave into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth’” (Matthew 25:13-30).

• 11 While the people were listening to these things, Jesus proceeded to tell a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. 12 Therefore he said, “A nobleman went to a distant country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return. 13 And he summoned ten of his slaves, gave them ten minas, and said to them, ‘Do business with these until I come back.’ 14 But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to be king over us!’ 15 When he returned after receiving the kingdom, he summoned these slaves to whom he had given the money. He wanted to know how much they had earned by trading. 16 So the first one came before him and said, ‘Sir, your mina has made ten minas more.’ 17 And the king said to him, ‘Well done, good slave! Because you have been faithful in a very small matter, you will have authority over ten cities.’ 18 Then the second one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has made five minas.’ 19 So the king said to him, ‘And you are to be over five cities.’ 20 Then another slave came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina that I put away for safekeeping in a piece of cloth. 21 For I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man. You withdraw what you did not deposit and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 The king said to him, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked slave! So you knew, did you, that I was a severe man, withdrawing what I didn’t deposit and reaping what I didn’t sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money in the bank, so that when I returned I could have collected it with interest?’ 24 And he said to his attendants, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to the one who has ten.’ 25 But they said to him, ‘Sir, he has ten minas already!’ 26 ‘I tell you that everyone who has will be given more, but from the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!’” Luke 19:11-27

[redunderthebed]

The Communist Party of Australia dissolved years ago, and splinter parties advocating actual socialism are regarded as lunatics. At best their candidates can expect to have a couple of hundred votes cast their way in electorates that typically contain 20,000 voters.

Communist Party of Australia still exist...

The Communist Party of Australia was founded in 1920 and dissolved in 1991, grasshopper. You are probably talking about the Socialist Party of Australia (SPA), a splinter group (1971) of the CPA that changed its name in 1996. It twice fielded a single candidate (Michael Perth, Port Adelaide, 1996 and 2001) for a parliamentary seat (itself a weird thing to do for an allegedly revolutionary (in contrast to reformist) marxist organisation and attracted less than 1% of the vote each time. On a state level (e.g. Marrickville, NSW) the Socialist Alliance is doing just as badly, if not worse.

We are the communist party of Australia the successor of the old one not a splinter group.The old CPA dissolved and we always said once and if that happened we would continue the tradition of a communist party in Australia.

Also you need to adapt marxism to local conditions and we know that a violent revolution will not wash at all so we try to build in other ways. I have no problems nor do the vast majority of the party with running in elections its just coming up with the $ to do it properly.

(oh and i've met michael perth nice guy. )

Yes socialist alliance (long hijacked by the democratic socialist party) suck.

So, again: My point was to agree with Rumertron. What was yours?

Come on, man. I'm trying to give you a leg up here.

Oh i wholeheartedly agree the ALP here long abandoned socialism and has bought into much of the same BS as the british labour party. We are hoping to appeal to voters who are disgruntled with this and the labor party and the two-party system in general and those who wouldn't touch the greenies with a ten foot pole.

[devogue]

...They all do in the end so we might as well make it personal...

They all do - but to varying degrees.


All politicians are shit, but some politicians are more shit than others.

In Northern Ireland they are all shit. No exceptions.

How does that contradict what I said? "Varying degrees" does not equal "exceptions".

Sorry - I wasn't trying to contradict you. I was merely emphasising the fecality of our lot.

[Horwood Beer-Master]

Oh look, you can make your own!

[Lozzer]

I'm going to run for local councillor when I'm 18 as a conservative...

[Horwood Beer-Master]

I'm going to run for local councillor when I'm 18 as a conservative...

Why?

[Hermit]

I'm going to run for local councillor when I'm 18 as a conservative...

Why?

For fuck's sake! You're talking to Lozzer!


Duh!

[Horwood Beer-Master]

I'm going to run for local councillor when I'm 18 as a conservative...

Why?

For fuck's sake! You're talking to Lozzer!


Duh!

Oh I see, he just felt the self-centred jerk party was the one for him.

[Hermit]

I'm going to run for local councillor when I'm 18 as a conservative...

Why?

For fuck's sake! You're talking to Lozzer!


Duh!

Oh I see, he just felt the self-centred jerk party was the one for him.

Must. resist. making. the. obvious. comment.

[Pappa]

You know Lozzer wants to stand as a Tory candidate, right?

[Horwood Beer-Master]

Hmm, I wonder if someone with skillz could photoshop this image on to one of these posters, along with an appropriate election slogan for Lozzer?