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Re: Why is it that . . .

Post by Animavore » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:27 pm

We need to send out the Butterfly signal :hehe:
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Re: Why is it that . . .

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:38 pm

Animavore wrote:We need to send out the Butterfly signal :hehe:
Well, duh.
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Post by Pyrrho » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:35 am

Fossilization is a tricky thing. There may have been (and probably were) many dinosaur species that survived, but which, for some reason, weren't fossilized in sufficient numbers to be discovered by us simians. Some things just don't mineralize as well as others.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:37 am

Pyrrho wrote:Fossilization is a tricky thing. There may have been (and probably were) many dinosaur species that survived, but which, for some reason, weren't fossilized in sufficient numbers to be discovered by us simians. Some things just don't mineralize as well as others.
But the beeky ones survived and thrived. There was something about beeks that "worked" for them, I think.
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Post by Pappa » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:37 pm

Pyrrho wrote:Fossilization is a tricky thing. There may have been (and probably were) many dinosaur species that survived, but which, for some reason, weren't fossilized in sufficient numbers to be discovered by us simians. Some things just don't mineralize as well as others.
Did you ever read the tips on the best ways to get fossilised in the New Scientist?
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Re: Why is it that . . .

Post by AshtonBlack » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:40 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:. . . only the dinosaurs with beaks survived the mass extinction?
When did crocs (200million years) get beaks?

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:43 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:. . . only the dinosaurs with beaks survived the mass extinction?
When did crocs (200million years) get beaks?
Crocs ain't dinosaurs.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:01 am

Devogue wrote:Interesting.

I thought it was just a given. :eddy:
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Post by Azathoth » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:22 am

maybe it isn't the beakiness as much as the featheryness that was the controlling factor in survival :dono:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:24 am

Ghatanothoa wrote:maybe it isn't the beakiness as much as the featheryness that was the controlling factor in survival :dono:
Feathers are obvious, insulation. But were the feathered ones the beaked ones by default?
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:29 am

Ghatanothoa wrote:maybe it isn't the beakiness as much as the featheryness that was the controlling factor in survival :dono:
A lot of dinos were feathered. Indeed it now seems quite possible that the very earliest dinos had filament-like 'proto-feathers'.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:29 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Ghatanothoa wrote:maybe it isn't the beakiness as much as the featheryness that was the controlling factor in survival :dono:
Feathers are obvious, insulation. But were the feathered ones the beaked ones by default?
No.
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Re: Why is it that . . .

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:39 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
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Ghatanothoa wrote:maybe it isn't the beakiness as much as the featheryness that was the controlling factor in survival :dono:
Feathers are obvious, insulation. But were the feathered ones the beaked ones by default?
No.
That's not much help.
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Re: Why is it that . . .

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:45 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Ghatanothoa wrote:maybe it isn't the beakiness as much as the featheryness that was the controlling factor in survival :dono:
Feathers are obvious, insulation. But were the feathered ones the beaked ones by default?
No.
That's not much help.
As I indicated in my previous post, feathers were common among dinosaurs. Including the toothy-ones.

So the feathered ones were not by default the beaked ones.
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Re: Why is it that . . .

Post by Reverend Blair » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:12 pm

Could it be that they were omnivorous and therefore could better survive on whatever was left?

I doubt it was a single trait. It's likely that they were relatively big-brained omnivores with feathers who lived in environments that somewhat protected them somehow, or something like that. Note: I mean that the mix of traits was likely, not that the traits I more or less pulled out of a hat were likely.

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