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Post by Chinaski » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:04 am

Elessarina wrote:Link above has BO adjusted for inflation IMDB doesn't take inflation into account.

Another point though that i would like to make in respect of this film - James Cameron wanted to make a film that EVERYONE could enjoy (from all over the world) it was called Project 880 because he wanted people from 8-80 to be able to enjoy it. For a film to be successful to a mass mass audience you can't write as if you're writing War and Peace..

You may complain that the film was preictable and so forth BAA but not everyone in this world is as intelligent as you.. if you want to create something with mass appeal you can't alienate 80% of your potential audience.
So money is more important than artistic integrity.

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Post by RappingAgnostic » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:23 am

Chinaski wrote:
Elessarina wrote:Link above has BO adjusted for inflation IMDB doesn't take inflation into account.

Another point though that i would like to make in respect of this film - James Cameron wanted to make a film that EVERYONE could enjoy (from all over the world) it was called Project 880 because he wanted people from 8-80 to be able to enjoy it. For a film to be successful to a mass mass audience you can't write as if you're writing War and Peace..

You may complain that the film was preictable and so forth BAA but not everyone in this world is as intelligent as you.. if you want to create something with mass appeal you can't alienate 80% of your potential audience.
So money is more important than artistic integrity.

Fuck Hollywood.
I fully agree.
I don't hate the movie, I thought it was enjoyable, but it definitely lacked originality. The story was shit, the characters were shit. But I guess the public doesn't care for good writing and character development and other stuff like that. :nono:

Like BAA, I pretty much knew what was going to happen in the movie.

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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:23 am

Animavore wrote:Shawshank Redemption, City of God or La Haine still aren't on the list even with inflation.

The Shawshank Redemption is well know as being a box office flop and a massive word of mouth hit.

City of God & la Haine - Most of the top films are English language. Foreign language films don't generally get the BO receipts... and to be honest I had never even heard of La Haine.. and I read lots of movie magazines! :shock: To do well at the box office a movie also has to have to be promoted.. people aren't going to go to see a film they know nothing about. And mpost foreign films probably don't have as much funding for a massive amount of promotion.

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:25 am

Elessarina wrote:and to be honest I had never even heard of La Haine..
Get in the sack.

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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:25 am

Chinaski wrote: So money is more important than artistic integrity.

Fuck Hollywood.
I didn't mention money

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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:26 am

Animavore wrote:Get in the sack.

:nono:
You and I tend to look for different kinds of films.. so it's not surprising that something that passed me by is something that you would have caught

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:32 am

Elessarina wrote:
Animavore wrote:Get in the sack.

:nono:
You and I tend to look for different kinds of films.. so it's not surprising that something that passed me by is something that you would have caught
Its from the 90s so you probably missed out being younger and such.
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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:38 am

Animavore wrote:Its from the 90s so you probably missed out being younger and such.

Holy crap... the sarcasm-o-meter just started spinning around.. :shock:

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:? I wasn't being sarcastic.
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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:02 am

Animavore wrote::? I wasn't being sarcastic.
I'm 36!!!!

Although at the time the film was made and released I was at university (93-96) so I was out of touch with everything

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Post by Animavore » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:34 am

Elessarina wrote:
Animavore wrote::? I wasn't being sarcastic.
I'm 36!!!!

Although at the time the film was made and released I was at university (93-96) so I was out of touch with everything
:shock: i thought you were like 25 or something.

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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:54 am

Animavore wrote: :shock: i thought you were like 25 or something.

:shock: :? :hehe:

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Post by CJ » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:03 am

Elessarina wrote:
Animavore wrote::? I wasn't being sarcastic.
I'm 36!!!!

Although at the time the film was made and released I was at university (93-96) so I was out of touch with everything
You may be 36 yeas old but your more than 36 in other ways :drool: :drool:

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Post by Elessarina » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:31 am

CJ wrote: You may be 36 yeas old but your more than 36 in other ways :drool: :drool:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:16 pm

Animavore wrote:
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Animavore wrote:You obviously hang around geeky circles :hehe:

I just want you to know that wasn't a dig what I said. Just a genuine observation. I know more people in RL that love Titanic (ok, fair enough they're all girls and don't count :hehe: ) than have even heard of Avatar. Which s why I said that the geek squad are many (making Avatar the highest grossing film ever) but just spread across the world like Jordan's legs.
If they all united we'd be fucked :shock:
So how long has Titanic been out, again?
Don't know or care.
Funnily enough Shawshank Redemption, which is most of the people I know in real life's favourite film, isn't even in the top 389 films! And I really mean almost every single person I know regards that as their favourite film (in real life). Which leads me to think the nerds are infiltrating on the sly.
:shock:

EDIT: La Haine and City of God aren't on the list but Wild, Wild West is. Effectively meaning the argument from popularity is totally redundant.
2nd EDIT: Neither is Casablanca or Citizen Kaine.
So people have seen "Titanic" in the theatre and on video for years, and "Avatar" has been out for a few weeks. It's hardly surprising that you know more people that have seen "Titanic". That is officially an non-fact for this discussion.
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