Unobtainium has been talked about since the '50s. Tell your friends they need to get some facts before sticking it up.Red Katie wrote:I was talking to some people last night whose opinions I respect, and they said, "Dumbest movie ever." The rare mineral they're looking for is called unobtainium, for chrissake. But... the effects are beautiful!
I'm with John Simon on this one: the only thing effects should be is effective. Hell if I'll waste my money on it.
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Yeah, that was their problem with it. Such an ancient gag.Gawdzilla wrote:Unobtainium has been talked about since the '50s. Tell your friends they need to get some facts before sticking it up.Red Katie wrote:I was talking to some people last night whose opinions I respect, and they said, "Dumbest movie ever." The rare mineral they're looking for is called unobtainium, for chrissake. But... the effects are beautiful!
I'm with John Simon on this one: the only thing effects should be is effective. Hell if I'll waste my money on it.
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But the concept is legitimate. So what's the snark?Red Katie wrote:Yeah, that was their problem with it. Such an ancient gag.Gawdzilla wrote:Unobtainium has been talked about since the '50s. Tell your friends they need to get some facts before sticking it up.Red Katie wrote:I was talking to some people last night whose opinions I respect, and they said, "Dumbest movie ever." The rare mineral they're looking for is called unobtainium, for chrissake. But... the effects are beautiful!
I'm with John Simon on this one: the only thing effects should be is effective. Hell if I'll waste my money on it.
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I've read some serious reviews from respected critics who actually thought unobtainium was simply a sci-fi joke and a lazy name. 

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It was first coined in the '50s.Peter Harrison wrote:I've read some serious reviews from respected critics who actually thought unobtainium was simply a sci-fi joke and a lazy name.
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It's fine by be. It's just a name. If they make a sequel though and the mineral suddenly gains some kind of supernatural properties, then I will be all sorts of pissed off.Peter Harrison wrote:I've read some serious reviews from respected critics who actually thought unobtainium was simply a sci-fi joke and a lazy name.
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It's a room temperature super-conductor. That's supernatural already.andrewclunn wrote:It's fine by be. It's just a name. If they make a sequel though and the mineral suddenly gains some kind of supernatural properties, then I will be all sorts of pissed off.Peter Harrison wrote:I've read some serious reviews from respected critics who actually thought unobtainium was simply a sci-fi joke and a lazy name.
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Red Katie wrote:I was talking to some people last night whose opinions I respect, and they said, "Dumbest movie ever." The rare mineral they're looking for is called unobtainium, for chrissake. But... the effects are beautiful!
The use if the name unobtainium is a bit of an in-joke and is an accepted term
"Engineers have long (since at least the 1950s[2]) used the term unobtainium when referring to unusual or costly materials"
so in the context of the film is perfectly apt.
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It's far from being the "dumbest movie ever" - granted it's fairly simplistic and predictable but Cameron has created it to be this generation's Star Wars and as a piece of mind blowing sci-fi it worksRed Katie wrote: I'm with John Simon on this one: the only thing effects should be is effective. Hell if I'll waste my money on it.
You won't get the same impact in 2D or on the small screen so if you have $10 to spend go and enjoy the scenary because it is the closest you will ever come to being on another planet (or moon).
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I'm gonna be honest with you Katie. Given your seriousness and contempt for pop culture I seriously doubt that you will like this. Unless I have you wrong but you seem like that type of person who would rather watch The Colour Purple than Aliens.
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Damned well said.Animavore wrote: Unless I have you wrong but you seem like that type of person who would rather watch The Colour Purple than Aliens.
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Although judging by your avatar you seem to be into fantasy art of which Avatar is an example of come to life.Red Katie wrote:Damned well said.Animavore wrote: Unless I have you wrong but you seem like that type of person who would rather watch The Colour Purple than Aliens.
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Animavore wrote:Although judging by your avatar you seem to be into fantasy art of which Avatar is an example of come to life.Red Katie wrote:Damned well said.Animavore wrote: Unless I have you wrong but you seem like that type of person who would rather watch The Colour Purple than Aliens.

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When I was in high school, I used to read science fiction by the ton, and I've noticed that it never works in movies or on TV. Mainly because the people who make movies and TV shows don't know anything about science fiction. TV & movies are always 40 to 60 years behind where science fiction is. Just as one example, consider "Back to the Future." The idea of going back in time and meeting your father before you were born was popular in science fiction in the 1950s. They wore it out then, and haven't messed with it since. The idea of whipping up a time machine--or anything else--in a home shop and going adventuring is much older than that.Elessarina wrote:Red Katie wrote:Cameron has created it to be this generation's Star Wars and as a piece of mind blowing sci-fi it works.
When whatsisname made Stars Wars, he went even farther back. He went as far back as he could go: a thousand years or more. And then he made an empty-headed piece of shit out of it.
So, yeah, if Avatar is "this" generation's Star Wars, I expect I would hate it.
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Her eyes are always hooded. Her claws are sharp as steel.
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Yeah. You will. To be honest I barely liked it either. I'd give it a 6 or 7 but only because of its WOW factor. And I don't like Star Wars either. Loved it as a child of course. Kids'll no doubt love this too.Red Katie wrote:When I was in high school, I used to read science fiction by the ton, and I've noticed that it never works in movies or on TV. Mainly because the people who make movies and TV shows don't know anything about science fiction. TV & movies are always 40 to 60 years behind where science fiction is. Just as one example, consider "Back to the Future." The idea of going back in time and meeting your father before you were born was popular in science fiction in the 1950s. They wore it out then, and haven't messed with it since. The idea of whipping up a time machine--or anything else--in a home shop and going adventuring is much older than that.Elessarina wrote:Red Katie wrote:Cameron has created it to be this generation's Star Wars and as a piece of mind blowing sci-fi it works.
When whatsisname made Stars Wars, he went even farther back. He went as far back as he could go: a thousand years or more. And then he made an empty-headed piece of shit out of it.
So, yeah, if Avatar is "this" generation's Star Wars, I expect I would hate it.
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