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Post by Feck » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:18 am

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Elessarina wrote:I will answer points more fully when I am not answering on my phone :)
But all that is important is - did you enjoy those two hours? Were they entertaining?
2 hours, 43 minutes. :read:
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Elessarina wrote:I will answer points more fully when I am not answering on my phone :)
But all that is important is - did you enjoy those two hours? Were they entertaining?
2 hours, 43 minutes. :read:
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Post by tattuchu » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:39 am

Elessarina wrote:I will answer points more fully when I am not answering on my phone :)
But all that is important is - did you enjoy those two hours? Were they entertaining?
Oh sure. There were some things that bothered me, but overall I liked the film. I'm never saying it was a bad film, but just that it could have been easily improved.
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Post by tattuchu » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:54 am

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Elessarina wrote:I will answer points more fully when I am not answering on my phone :)
But all that is important is - did you enjoy those two hours? Were they entertaining?
2 hours, 43 minutes. :read:
Must remember to take a nicotine patch to the cinema
This reminds me of my roommate. He smoked a joint before we left the house, and another in the car on the way there. He said to me, "Dave, I know you don't smoke, but you really ought to consider it just now."
And I was like, "Huh? Why?" And oh, I do smoke pot by the way. I just do it occasionally, and not twenty times a fucking day every day like him.
Anyway, he explains, "Cuz it's gonna be an awesome film, really amazing to watch."
I was confused. "Um...yeah? Yeah I know. But why does that mean I should smoke a joint?"
"Well because that'll make it that much better."
"Er...how so?"
"Because pot makes everything more vivid, more moving, more...I dunno, it just makes it a lot stronger of an experience."
"Huh," I says. "I dunno, I'm kinda of the opposing view. I'd much rather be clear-headed in order to fully take in a and appreciate what I'm seeing. I don't want my mind muddled by drugs."
"Oh, no," he says, "Pot doesn't muddle your mind. It enhances the experience."
"For you, maybe. But every time I've smoked it, it fucks me up. It'd be impossible for me to concentrate on the film cuz I'd be so out of it."
And he shook his head like I just didn't understand. But when we were in the theater, he sat there the whole time practically catatonic, slack-jawed, eyes glazed. He didn't make a sound; didn't laugh at the funny bits, didn't cry at the touching parts, didn't...didn't anything. In fact I looked over a couple times and it seemed like he was asleep. Yeah. Yeah, that's sure a good way to enjoy a film all right :ddpan:

Oh, the weird thing too is, whenever he smokes a joint, he follows it immediately with several cigarettes. Um...don't they have opposite effects? What's the point of this :think:
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Post by Animavore » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:28 am

Elessarina wrote:You might want to look at your first post in this thread Ani ;)
Dammit :lol:

EDIT: Sorry. I'm dunk. I just realised I haven't contradicted myself with the first post. I said a film doesn't necessarily need a good script but those films still had a good story. So did Avatar of course. Its the execution of that story which didn't live up to what they did in early Cameron.
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Post by Animavore » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:40 am

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Oh. Actually I can't really think of a better film this year (it wasn't a great year for film) so they may be right.
Anyway not arguing over something subjective like taste. I've said what I think of the film there's no need to go on. Plus I'm leaving right now for a session. Drinks galore :drunk:

Laterz. Happy Christmas everyone :huggeroo:

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Speaking of Cameron films, I just realized I've never seen The Abyss. I need to add that to my amazon cart...
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tattuchu wrote:Speaking of Cameron films, I just realized I've never seen The Abyss. I need to add that to my amazon cart...
Extended version only. :mod:
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Post by Elessarina » Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:51 am

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Oh sure. There were some things that bothered me, but overall I liked the film. I'm never saying it was a bad film, but just that it could have been easily improved.

tell us how exactly? I don't mean say "the script could have been better" - if you have improvements tell me how exactly funny thing is.. I *could* actually get them to JC

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Elessarina wrote:You might want to look at your first post in this thread Ani ;)
Dammit :lol:

EDIT: Sorry. I'm dunk. I just realised I haven't contradicted myself with the first post. I said a film doesn't necessarily need a good script but those films still had a good story. So did Avatar of course. Its the execution of that story which didn't live up to what they did in early Cameron.

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Oh sure. There were some things that bothered me, but overall I liked the film. I'm never saying it was a bad film, but just that it could have been easily improved.

tell us how exactly? I don't mean say "the script could have been better" - if you have improvements tell me how exactly funny thing is.. I *could* actually get them to JC
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tattuchu wrote:Speaking of Cameron films, I just realized I've never seen The Abyss. I need to add that to my amazon cart...
Extended version only. :mod:
Extended is always the best way to see them :tup:
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Just look at the top of the page :cry:
I mean, I said the things I thought needed improvement. Do you expect me to, like, rewrite the script or something :ask:
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Post by Elessarina » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:28 am

1) There was a general lack of characterization. The characters lacked depth.
How could you give them more depth?
2) The characters were too one-dimensional, too stereotypical, lacking in complexity. There were good guys and bad guys and no shades of grey.
Fair enough but I don't think there was room / time for more characters and any ambiguity
3) Too many cliches.
There were some I grant you but not too many
4) I wasn't sure why our hero changed sides. His conversion wasn't convincing. And he's a very weak-willed and poorly trained Marine if he could change sides that easily.
But also someone who hasn't walked for years/ Earth is a shit hole/ he fell in love. But people do change sides - Lawrence of Arabia
5) I didn't find the main characters' romance convincing. It was obvious what he saw in her, but what did she see in him?
He's different/ he's a moron / he's exotic - I believe she does tell him why she saved him initially - he has a strong heart..

6) The main character is special somehow, so special that his specialness is especially noticed by the great trees special seeds. And yet...why is he special? What makes him so, other than that the script requires him to be so?
I wasn't convinced that the tree did consider him "special".. I am sure there was a reason for the seeds being attracted to him (maybe something he had touched).

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