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by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:12 pm
Geoff wrote:HMS Royal Oak.
I thought that was hard!
Shows what I know. It was an interesting story though - the driver told it on the bus trip around Orkney - where I got to see where the ship was sunk at Scapa Flow.
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by klr » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:13 pm
Geoff wrote:HMS Royal Oak.
I only know this because my eponymous local pub has a newspaper clipping on the wall about it!

I think XC was hoping he'd get a few more minutes (at least!) than that!
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In early 1928, this duty saw the notorious incident the contemporary press dubbed the "Royal Oak Mutiny".[16] What began as a simple dispute between Rear-Admiral Bernard Collard and Royal Oak's two senior officers Captain Kenneth Dewar and Commander Henry Daniel over the band at the ship's wardroom dance, descended into a bitter personal feud that spanned several months.[17] Dewar and Daniel accused Collard of "vindictive fault-finding" and openly humiliating and insulting them before their crew; in return, Collard countercharged the two with failing to follow orders and treating him "worse than a midshipman".[18] When Dewar and Daniel wrote letters of complaint to Collard's superior, Vice-Admiral John Kelly, he immediately passed them on to the Commander-in-Chief Admiral Sir Roger Keyes. On realising that the relationship between the two and their flag admiral had irretrievably broken down, Keyes removed all three from their posts and sent them back to England, postponing a major naval exercise.[19] The press picked up on the story worldwide, describing the affair—with some hyperbole—as a "mutiny".[20] Public attention reached such proportions as to raise the concerns of the King, who summoned First Lord of the Admiralty William Bridgeman for an explanation.[20]
For their letters of complaint, Dewar and Daniel were controversially charged with writing subversive documents.[21] In a pair of highly publicised courts-martial, both were found guilty and severely reprimanded, leading Daniel to resign from the Navy. Collard himself was criticised for the excesses of his conduct by the press and in Parliament, and on being denounced by Bridgeman as "unfitted to hold further high command",[22] was forcibly retired from service.[23]
Of the three, only Dewar escaped with his career,[24] albeit a damaged one: he remained in the Royal Navy and was promoted to Rear-Admiral the following year, one day before his retirement.[25] Daniel attempted a career in journalism, but when this and other ventures were unsuccessful, he disappeared into obscurity and poor health in South Africa.[26] One consequence of the damaging affair was an undertaking from the Admiralty to review the means by which naval officers might bring complaints against the conduct of their superiors.[22]
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:21 pm
Operation Market Garden question.
How many of the bridge objectives were blown by the Germans before they could be secured by the Allies. Also name them.
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by Geoff » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:26 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:Operation Market Garden question.
How many of the bridge objectives were blown by the Germans before they could be secured by the Allies. Also name them.
Just Son during Market Garden, I thought. Arnhem bridge fell a month later.

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:34 pm
Geoff wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Operation Market Garden question.
How many of the bridge objectives were blown by the Germans before they could be secured by the Allies. Also name them.
Just Son during Market Garden, I thought. Arnhem bridge fell a month later.

That's one.
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by Geoff » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:19 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:Geoff wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Operation Market Garden question.
How many of the bridge objectives were blown by the Germans before they could be secured by the Allies. Also name them.
Just Son during Market Garden, I thought. Arnhem bridge fell a month later.

That's one.
Had to google...could only find the Arnhem railway bridge (I'd forgotten that!) Need to watch "a bridge too far" again, anyway; (great film!)
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:21 pm
Geoff wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Geoff wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Operation Market Garden question.
How many of the bridge objectives were blown by the Germans before they could be secured by the Allies. Also name them.
Just Son during Market Garden, I thought. Arnhem bridge fell a month later.

That's one.
Had to google...could only find the Arnhem railway bridge (I'd forgotten that!) Need to watch "a bridge too far" again, anyway; (great film!)
...there's moah?
Four total.
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by Geoff » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:25 am
Gawdzilla wrote:Geoff wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Geoff wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Operation Market Garden question.
How many of the bridge objectives were blown by the Germans before they could be secured by the Allies. Also name them.
Just Son during Market Garden, I thought. Arnhem bridge fell a month later.

That's one.
Had to google...could only find the Arnhem railway bridge (I'd forgotten that!) Need to watch "a bridge too far" again, anyway; (great film!)
...there's moah?
Four total.
I found a pontoon bridge at Arnhem with a bit missing...?
Oh, bridge number 8 (can't find a name) over the Maas-Waal canal, and the railroad bridge over the Maas river.

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:31 am
Geoff wrote:Oh, bridge number 8 (can't find a name) over the Maas-Waal canal, and the railroad bridge over the Maas river.

That's two.
Honinghutje Bridge ( Maas-Waal Canal )
Son Bridge ( Wilhelmina Canal )
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by klr » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:52 pm
I think I'll have to retrieve my copy of
A Bridge Too Far - do things the old-fashioned way.

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by Geoff » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:07 pm
klr wrote:I think I'll have to retrieve my copy of
A Bridge Too Far - do things the old-fashioned way.

The unabridged version, one presumes...
I give up on the rest, put us out of our misery, Zilla!

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:10 pm
Geoff wrote:klr wrote:I think I'll have to retrieve my copy of
A Bridge Too Far - do things the old-fashioned way.

The unabridged version, one presumes...
I give up on the rest, put us out of our misery, Zilla!

I'm sorry, what was the question?
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:07 pm
Here's an easy one. Name the countries that attacked Poland in 1939.
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by klr » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:11 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:Here's an easy one. Name the countries that attacked Poland in 1939.
Easy: Germany, the Soviet Union and Slovakia.
IIRC, the Slovaks wanted some land back, among other things.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:12 pm
klr wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Here's an easy one. Name the countries that attacked Poland in 1939.
Easy: Germany, the Soviet Union and Slovakia.
IIRC, the Slovaks wanted some land back, among other things.
Told you it was easy. Am I forgiven for the bridge question now.

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