Come and get yer Nazis!

[Trolldor]

Until such a problem arises, I'm not willing to question the authenticity of wikileaks, given their history and the amount of shit they've exposed.
Not least of which was our Government's very own blacklist for an internet filter it was trying to impose on us.

it doesn't matter if it wikileaks is authentic! We cannot take it for granted that the BNPs data itself is authentic - just because someone's name is on that list does not prove they are card carrying Nazis. If there is the possiblity that publicly publishing this list exposes just one non-BNP member to risk of public retribution then it's the wrong thing to do. It's a lazy and sensationalist way of tackling a very real threat to our society.

But it's not tackling any threat.

[JOZeldenrust]

Nazis might have a despicable ideology, but they have a right to privacy just as much as anyone else. The people who publish this kind of info (in the Netherlands it's the AntiFA) scare me more then the actual nazis.

[Trolldor]

Nazis might have a despicable ideology, but they have a right to privacy just as much as anyone else. The people who publish this kind of info (in the Netherlands it's the AntiFA) scare me more then the actual nazis.

I beg to differ.
Everyone has the right to free expression, but the right to privacy goes out the window when you actively support a public political party.

[Lozzer]

They have a member called Mr Curry and another called Mr White....

I'm also surprised by the amount overseas members. One I've found is a professor who lives in Venezuela

[JOZeldenrust]

Nazis might have a despicable ideology, but they have a right to privacy just as much as anyone else. The people who publish this kind of info (in the Netherlands it's the AntiFA) scare me more then the actual nazis.

I beg to differ.
Everyone has the right to free expression, but the right to privacy goes out the window when you actively support a public political party.

Bullshit. People wouldn't be OK with publishing members' lists (including addresses) of regular political parties. Why should nationalist parties be any different?

[Trolldor]

I'm actually perfectly fine with the membership list of any political party being published. If you're willing to support a party which could potentially be running the country, then you should do so publically.

[BlackBart]

Until such a problem arises, I'm not willing to question the authenticity of wikileaks, given their history and the amount of shit they've exposed.
Not least of which was our Government's very own blacklist for an internet filter it was trying to impose on us.

it doesn't matter if it wikileaks is authentic! We cannot take it for granted that the BNPs data itself is authentic - just because someone's name is on that list does not prove they are card carrying Nazis. If there is the possiblity that publicly publishing this list exposes just one non-BNP member to risk of public retribution then it's the wrong thing to do. It's a lazy and sensationalist way of tackling a very real threat to our society.

But it's not tackling any threat.

The BNP is not a threat to society?

[Lozzer]

Why should nationalist parties be any different?

"I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime ... Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.
"To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting that force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence. A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.
"The demonisation of rape is all part of the feminazi desire to obtain power and mastery over men. Men who go along with the rape myth are either morons or traitors."

Nick Eriksen BNP


This is why they are different.

[Thinking Aloud]

I now have in my possession the details of over 16,000 BNP members. I've found several who are local to me.

Seriously, what kind of stupid retard called <blah blah> is stupid enough to put his phone number (<blah>) on the internets?

Isn't the point of this that they didn't put their details on the internet? It's been leaked there.

[Lozzer]

I now have in my possession the details of over 16,000 BNP members. I've found several who are local to me.

Seriously, what kind of stupid retard called <blah blah> is stupid enough to put his phone number (<blah>) on the internets?

Isn't the point of this that they didn't put their details on the internet? It's been leaked there.

I blame the Jews.

[Trolldor]

Until such a problem arises, I'm not willing to question the authenticity of wikileaks, given their history and the amount of shit they've exposed.
Not least of which was our Government's very own blacklist for an internet filter it was trying to impose on us.

it doesn't matter if it wikileaks is authentic! We cannot take it for granted that the BNPs data itself is authentic - just because someone's name is on that list does not prove they are card carrying Nazis. If there is the possiblity that publicly publishing this list exposes just one non-BNP member to risk of public retribution then it's the wrong thing to do. It's a lazy and sensationalist way of tackling a very real threat to our society.

But it's not tackling any threat.

The BNP is not a threat to society?

If the BNP gains power, then the society was already ruined. If it doesn't then it was never a threat. There is no ambiguity involved.

[BlackBart]

Until such a problem arises, I'm not willing to question the authenticity of wikileaks, given their history and the amount of shit they've exposed.
Not least of which was our Government's very own blacklist for an internet filter it was trying to impose on us.

it doesn't matter if it wikileaks is authentic! We cannot take it for granted that the BNPs data itself is authentic - just because someone's name is on that list does not prove they are card carrying Nazis. If there is the possiblity that publicly publishing this list exposes just one non-BNP member to risk of public retribution then it's the wrong thing to do. It's a lazy and sensationalist way of tackling a very real threat to our society.

But it's not tackling any threat.

The BNP is not a threat to society?

If the BNP gains power, then the society was already ruined. If it doesn't then it was never a threat. There is no ambiguity involved.

That fact the the BNP exists is a threat to society. Newsflash: Our society is far from perfect - and while Nick Griffiths and his ilk are allowed to spew their hatred and bile, it's going to get worse. We have to tackle that and we have to tackle it democratically. Publicly demonising 16000 people who may or may not be BNP members will not achieve that.

[Trolldor]

It doesn't demonise them at all. It just makes their support known. If their demonised that's your own fault.

[BlackBart]

It doesn't demonise them at all. It just makes their support known. If their demonised that's your own fault.

So you're saying the whole point of this exercise was not to expose 16000 BNP supporters as Nazis? And they're only nasty if people think they are?

[Trolldor]

It doesn't demonise them at all. It just makes their support known. If their demonised that's your own fault.

So you're saying the whole point of this exercise was not to expose 16000 BNP supporters as Nazis? And they're only nasty if people think they are?

The members were already considered Nazis, their names just weren't known to everybody. Anyone who supports any political party should do so in the public realm, because mostly nobody will give a shit, but sometimes there are some very interesting names on there.