Small political rant!

[floppit]

I'm so pissed off, I'm pissed off with the press, the popular masses, two party politics and what seems to me a nationwide dementia blighted memory! Most of all I'm pissed off with the whole expenses thing - yes it was a problem, yes it needed to come to light, yes it needs fixing but in the whole scheme of things it's small fry.

There's David Cameron accusing Gordon Brown of a car boot sale of assets - well a car boot sale is all that's bloody left! We used to own the utilities till they were sold to those who could pay, we used to own swathes of service industries that supported education, the NHS, social care and even defence, we were employers and had control over them, now instead there's a never ending scrabble to regain the control with legislation (the recent ISA registration scheme has as much to do with privatisation as ever it has to do with safeguarding) because we've lost it, it was sold. We also owned millions of properties that rose year by year in value while bringing in a regular income - sold now, underpriced by 60%. Of course we got to keep the dilapidated ones and the families that never did pay a regular rent, what we sold was the homes that people could and would buy, the ones set to rise in value and lived in by relatively stable tenants. Gone.

The press is in a frenzy over £12,000 too much spent on cleaning but seems to have completely forgotten in past times we voted in the Mum of an arms dealer who cranked up defence spending in her first years in office - ok, eventually the spending calmed down but that was after her son was a made man.

For Margaret Thatcher it was a triumph for her policy of 'Batting for Britain'. For the middlemen, the fixers behind the deal, it meant vast commissions. For Mark Thatcher, it allegedly meant a pounds 12m windfall at the age of 31.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 41987.html

You'd have thought her being buddies with Pinochet would have raised enough flags - but no, Cameron still happily boasts her favour.

And Gordon Brown? I haven't a smeggin' clue! I can't pretend to be a good enough economist to evaluate his actions myself, I also have little trust left for the accuracy of current commentary. There are two things though that I am sure of, the amount of debt we have now cannot solely be blamed on Gordon, most of our assets were flogged before Labour came to power and the North Sea Oil windfall disappeared into the ether (sp?). The other thing I'm sure of is that Gordon Brown is a lousy politician - he's getting bullied and behaving like someone bullied - watching him drilled about his sight, watching his responses or the lack of them to the torrent of mud slung from across the benches is car crash tv.

I'm at a loss, as a voter and a citizen I haven't the faintest idea what to suggest.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

It's easy to blame a scapegoat for all the world's troubles. The EU is not the root cause of everything that is wrong with Britain. There is no root cause, other than the natural ebb and flow of social politics. We had it so good for so long in the UK that we seem to think that it is somehow the natural way of things. The fact is that we are simply an island full of people much the same as people anywhere else - all trying to get our own piece of the pie before it runs out.

[Pappa]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

It's easy to blame a scapegoat for all the world's troubles. The EU is not the root cause of everything that is wrong with Britain. There is no root cause, other than the natural ebb and flow of social politics. We had it so good for so long in the UK that we seem to think that it is somehow the natural way of things. The fact is that we are simply an island full of people much the same as people anywhere else - all trying to get our own piece of the pie before it runs out.

Hey XC, you bastard! Give me back my pie!

[Xamonas Chegwé]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

It's easy to blame a scapegoat for all the world's troubles. The EU is not the root cause of everything that is wrong with Britain. There is no root cause, other than the natural ebb and flow of social politics. We had it so good for so long in the UK that we seem to think that it is somehow the natural way of things. The fact is that we are simply an island full of people much the same as people anywhere else - all trying to get our own piece of the pie before it runs out.

Hey XC, you bastard! Give me back my pie!

What pie? [/mouth full mode]

[Clinton Huxley]

I'm with Douglas Adams on this one - the only solution is to make sure that people who actually want to be in positions of power are under no circumstances allowed to be.

[Sisifo]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

I'm intrigued about what improvements in the situation you think that stepping out of the EU would bring. A priori your statement sounds more philosophical than anything else...

[Guy_Montag]

Actually, most of us are citizens, there may be a few British Subjects, but they are from the Commonwealth.

It's quite complicated - read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_subject

[Pappa]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

I'm intrigued about what improvements in the situation you think that stepping out of the EU would bring. A priori your statement sounds more philosophical than anything else...

I don't think there would be any benefit to stepping out of the EU. I think we actually do ourselves some harm with our half-in/half-out way of doing things here.

[Horwood Beer-Master]

First things first, this government needs to be replaced by a gov. that will pull us out of the EU. There is jack shit we can do while those dictators are pulling the strings, and extorting billions of our beer tokens from us.

P.S. You're a subject, not a citizen.

I'm intrigued about what improvements in the situation you think that stepping out of the EU would bring. A priori your statement sounds more philosophical than anything else...

I don't think there would be any benefit to stepping out of the EU. I think we actually do ourselves some harm with our half-in/half-out way of doing things here.

We'd benefit alot by reforming the EU (say by not having all the real decisions made by the unelected council).

[Deep Sea Isopod]

I'm sure I've posted somewhere about how much it's costing us to be an EU member.
This country is in a mess. While the EU are there to stop us sorting out our problems nothing can change.
EU Human rights!
Fuck 'em! If someone has commited a crime, they should be punnished, not molly coddled!
Chain-gangs wearing orange jump-suits picking up litter should not be an infringement of their human rights.

Immigration! Shouldn't be a free for all.

We have to stop wasting billions on Eurocracy, and bring in our own bill of rights which suit our needs. Take back our waters, and encourage more of our own manufacturing and farming.
Stupid EU regulations mean that our farms are throwing away millions of ton of good food every year! That is never right!
I could go on.

I firmly believe he EU is bad for Britain.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I'm sure I've posted somewhere about how much it's costing us to be an EU member.
This country is in a mess. While the EU are there to stop us sorting out our problems nothing can change.
EU Human rights!
Fuck 'em! If someone has commited a crime, they should be punnished, not molly coddled!
Chain-gangs wearing orange jump-suits picking up litter should not be an infringement of their human rights.

Immigration! Shouldn't be a free for all.

We have to stop wasting billions on Eurocracy, and bring in our own bill of rights which suit our needs. Take back our waters, and encourage more of our own manufacturing and farming.
Stupid EU regulations mean that our farms are throwing away millions of ton of good food every year! That is never right!
I could go on.

I firmly believe he EU is bad for Britain.

Reads like an UKIP tract. I'm sorry DSI but I don't share your views. You are blaming the EU for problems that would be there in any case. Might as well blame the international conspiracy of jews. Or the reptiloids.

[floppit]

I have to say I'm pro Europe, we are a tiny Island and as I've no wish to return to colonial Britain Europe provides the best option for avoiding the downsides of our diminutive size!

Besides - I just 'like' the mix.

[Sisifo]

I'm sure I've posted somewhere about how much it's costing us to be an EU member.
This country is in a mess. While the EU are there to stop us sorting out our problems nothing can change.
EU Human rights!
Fuck 'em! If someone has commited a crime, they should be punnished, not molly coddled!
Chain-gangs wearing orange jump-suits picking up litter should not be an infringement of their human rights.

Immigration! Shouldn't be a free for all.

We have to stop wasting billions on Eurocracy, and bring in our own bill of rights which suit our needs. Take back our waters, and encourage more of our own manufacturing and farming.
Stupid EU regulations mean that our farms are throwing away millions of ton of good food every year! That is never right!
I could go on.

I firmly believe he EU is bad for Britain.

DSI, seriously, you are glennbecking. Do you really blame the general moving out of companies from UK (first mining, then industry, and lately services), on Europe? And the slowing down of foreign investment? And the precarious state of banks and many companies? And more important than anything else, you talk about the state of Britain, like the rest of the G20 are doing fine. It's a global crisis, and actually it started at the other direction of the compass than the one you are looking at.

I agree with you though, that the agriculture policy of the EU is outrageous, and subsidizes inefficient productions, but that policy has not originated in the UE. It's the mirror of existing policies of some countries; the main one, UK.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the EU for our problems. I'm saying if we want to sort out our issues properly (I'm not talking about the economy) we must do it without the EU putting up restrictions and regulations all willy-nilly.


XC, yes. I am a UKIP man.