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Re: David Cameron

Post by Trolldor » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:38 am

Actually, most employment by youths IS part-time, and most part-time gigs are already filled precisely because so many people are looking for that "saturday" shift.
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Re: David Cameron

Post by devogue » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:45 am

born-again-atheist wrote:Actually, most employment by youths IS part-time, and most part-time gigs are already filled precisely because so many people are looking for that "saturday" shift.
I don't disagree at all - all I am saying is that it might be worth Lozzer trying to be one of those youths. I did it myself when I was at school and university, it didn't get in the way of my studies at all and it gave me a few quid to buy bits and pieces (mostly alcohol)

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Re: David Cameron

Post by Trolldor » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:47 am

Devogue wrote:
born-again-atheist wrote:Actually, most employment by youths IS part-time, and most part-time gigs are already filled precisely because so many people are looking for that "saturday" shift.
I don't disagree at all - all I am saying is that it might be worth Lozzer trying to be one of those youths. I did it myself when I was at school and university, it didn't get in the way of my studies at all and it gave me a few quid to buy bits and pieces (mostly alcohol)
When you were at University and School the lightbulb was still in development. A lot of workplaces have been 'streamlined', meaning less positions to fill, so the jobs available are not matching the growth of those looking for jobs.
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Re: David Cameron

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:50 am

Devogue wrote:...True, but there's no harm in applying for a few or asking round...
Well there is the cost in stamps/envelopes/printer ink when you're sending off repeated (futile) speculative applications.
I'm not being facetious, it all starts to add up pretty quickly.

Devogue wrote:...I'm sure there are more part-time than full-time opportunities at the moment.
There's still far less of either.
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Re: David Cameron

Post by devogue » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:53 am

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Devogue wrote:...True, but there's no harm in applying for a few or asking round...
Well there is the cost in stamps/envelopes/printer ink when you're sending off repeated (futile) speculative applications.
I'm not being facetious, it all starts to add up pretty quickly.

Devogue wrote:...I'm sure there are more part-time than full-time opportunities at the moment.
There's still far less of either.
I agree with you an BAA that there are fewer jobs about, but there are always a certain amount of jobs - the question is whether it's worth Lozzer applying for them and taking up an offer if he gets it.

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Re: David Cameron

Post by BlackBart » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:57 am

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I don't think he's as (genuinely) evil as Blair.

And, importantly, his wife is more shaggable.
more shaggable? That suggests that you think Cherie Blair has a degree of shaggability.

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Re: David Cameron

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:57 am

Devogue wrote:...I agree with you an BAA that there are fewer jobs about, but there are always a certain amount of jobs - the question is whether it's worth Lozzer applying for them and taking up an offer if he gets it.
There are jobs, but there's an incredible number of people applying for each one. The odds are low his application will even be read.
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Re: David Cameron

Post by Trolldor » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:58 am

For unskilled labour, it's ridiculously fucking hard to get a job. If lozzer can somehow mass produce a resume/application and hand it out to everything he sees, then he might have a chance, but it's not easy. Your best bet is to give unemployed youths enough money to afford the basics. They quickly learn the value of employment. The whole reason I didn't want to work at my parents' surgery was to make sure I had a ridiculous fucking sense of urgency to get this final qualification assessment out of the way so I can get a job.
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Re: David Cameron

Post by Lozzer » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:01 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:For unskilled labour, it's ridiculously fucking hard to get a job. If lozzer can somehow mass produce a resume/application and hand it out to everything he sees, then he might have a chance, but it's not easy. Your best bet is to give unemployed youths enough money to afford the basics. They quickly learn the value of employment. The whole reason I didn't want to work at my parents' surgery was to make sure I had a ridiculous fucking sense of urgency to get this final qualification assessment out of the way so I can get a job.

I have nothing to put on my resume :/
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Re: David Cameron

Post by Trolldor » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:04 pm

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born-again-atheist wrote:For unskilled labour, it's ridiculously fucking hard to get a job. If lozzer can somehow mass produce a resume/application and hand it out to everything he sees, then he might have a chance, but it's not easy. Your best bet is to give unemployed youths enough money to afford the basics. They quickly learn the value of employment. The whole reason I didn't want to work at my parents' surgery was to make sure I had a ridiculous fucking sense of urgency to get this final qualification assessment out of the way so I can get a job.

I have nothing to put on my resume :/
Neither did I. The older you get without getting a job, the worse it gets. Being 16 and having an empty slate means nothing, being 20 and having one makes you pretty much unemployable.

If there's anyway you can, save up some money and try and get a course qualification for bar work or something. It's well worth it. Having any qualification is a huge boost to a resume even when applying for unskilled labour.
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Re: David Cameron

Post by Pappa » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:06 pm

BlackBart wrote:
Devogue wrote:
I don't think he's as (genuinely) evil as Blair.

And, importantly, his wife is more shaggable.
more shaggable? That suggests that you think Cherie Blair has a degree of shaggability.

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Re: David Cameron

Post by devogue » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:06 pm

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Devogue wrote:...I agree with you an BAA that there are fewer jobs about, but there are always a certain amount of jobs - the question is whether it's worth Lozzer applying for them and taking up an offer if he gets it.
There are jobs, but there's an incredible number of people applying for each one. The odds are low his application will even be read.
Then I shall offer a little bit of advice.

The last time I advertised for a part time job (I run a wine business) I had loads of applications with CVs with the newspaper advert reference, applications from the local job centre, and I even had parents call in with me to ask for work for their children.

I read every CV sent to me and responded negatively to them (there was interest from about 20 people for the job) because one girl called in to the shop with her CV and the fact that she had that tiny bit extra courage and motivation to see me face to face got her the job. Of course, there were plenty of people better qualified but as an employer I figured that she wanted the job more because she went to the trouble of calling in to see me of her own volition. Also, the job didn't require any particular skill or qualification so all the stuff about GCSEs and A Levels meant nothing really - all I wanted was someone with a bit of drive, positivity, personality and get-up-and-go.

There is perhaps a feeling that employers don't want to be "hassled" by job applicants but having spoken to many of my peers they say the same thing - they are far more likely to give the job to the rare person who walks in off the street and asks for work than the person who methodically fills in application forms and posts them off.

Just saying!

(sorry about the derail)

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