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Post by Mallardz » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:10 pm

Hey!
Alternative building materials to cement, concrete, bricks ect
I'm making a car park and i must use enivromentally friendly materials or I'll fail and die.
Anyone no any?


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Post by Mallardz » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:19 pm

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Re: Building Materials

Post by Pappa » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:23 pm

Lime is carbon neutral, it absorbs CO2 as it sets. You can get something called Limecrete, but also just use lime itself (it's fucking nasty stuff though).

Also, rammed earth can be used (sometimes with the addition of a small amount of cement).
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Post by Trolldor » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:25 pm

Rocks and mud? All you have to do is pick them up off the ground. :lol:
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Post by Mallardz » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:27 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:Rocks and mud? All you have to do is pick them up off the ground. :lol:
Will they sufficiently support the weight of many cars? i can't pile them very well but i'll look at lime.
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Post by VonMushroom » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:43 pm

Car park? I assume that's for your personal car park, maximum three places or so? Nothing in the commercial car park scale? How is the ground? Is it leveled? Do you need to worry about the rain water flooding? And how's the ground material - hard, soft, sand? Do you need to worry about freezing during the winter time?

Ok, the simple answer is "Stone".

You can order all the required material delivered to your home yard by truck. I've done this once myself. First, you need to build a base that's not going cause problems:
-A good base is very rough crushed rock with rather large (about 10 cm) diameter for each pebble. 20-30 cm thick layer should suffice. This stuff is pressed hard until it forms a solid and leveled surface.
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-Next you'll need about 5 cm layer of softer sand (not rounded sand pebbles!) on top of the rough layer.
-Last you'll need the final layer of natural rock (see picture example below). The larger the better because the car needs a good support.
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-Use water to have the sand settle in between and under the rocks.
Note. You'll need to add some of the sand between the stones in the following 1-2 years because the sand tends to settle in and the stones will start moving around a bit. If you add a layer of fabric in between the rough rocky layer and the soft sand layer there will be less problems because of that.
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Post by VonMushroom » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:46 pm

Actually you can do some very fancy looking car parks with natural rocks:
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I made a terrace for my previous house that looked pretty much like that yard. It's very nice :) If you select a darkish brand for the final rock layer it's nice and warm in the cool summer evenings because the sun will warm it up during the day. :D
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Re: Building Materials

Post by Pappa » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:48 pm

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born-again-atheist wrote:Rocks and mud? All you have to do is pick them up off the ground. :lol:
Will they sufficiently support the weight of many cars? i can't pile them very well but i'll look at lime.
Rammed earth can be used to construct buildings. it is made in moulds in a similar way to reinforced concrete, the earth is then 'rammed' with a compactor.

When you say car park, do you mean just a flat surface to park a car, or something else? :think:
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Post by Mallardz » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:51 pm

I have an project to design a car park using the correct architectural methods. Ideally multistory.
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Post by Pappa » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:59 pm

Mallardz wrote:I have an project to design a car park using the correct architectural methods. Ideally multistory.
Ahhh.... I don't know if rammed earth would be suitable, but look into it anyway. Certainly some form of concrete made with lime would make the building carbon neutral or nearly so.
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Post by VonMushroom » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:32 pm

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Mallardz wrote:I have an project to design a car park using the correct architectural methods. Ideally multistory.
Ahhh.... I don't know if rammed earth would be suitable, but look into it anyway. Certainly some form of concrete made with lime would make the building carbon neutral or nearly so.
Multistore ... not an easy riddle. I bet rammed earth would be suitable for walls. The drawback is that the walls would be quite massive. But the upside is that by using layers of different earth materials the walls could be made colorful. I dont know what could be used as the floors. Not rammed earth I suppose.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:39 pm

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Mallardz wrote:I have an project to design a car park using the correct architectural methods. Ideally multistory.
Ahhh.... I don't know if rammed earth would be suitable, but look into it anyway. Certainly some form of concrete made with lime would make the building carbon neutral or nearly so.
Multistore ... not an easy riddle. I bet rammed earth would be suitable for walls. The drawback is that the walls would be quite massive. But the upside is that by using layers of different earth materials the walls could be made colorful. I dont know what could be used as the floors. Not rammed earth I suppose.
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Re: Building Materials

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:48 pm

Mallardz wrote:I have an project to design a car park using the correct architectural methods. Ideally multistory.
The reason modern construction methods and materials are used is because they don't fall down. We learned that the hard way.

You can make your car park "friendly" by installing planters along the outside edges and keeping shrubs in them to help rid the air of the auto exhaust gases. You can also make the top level a "open, green space" for the locals, a park on top of the park, if you will. You could also design it so one side of the park is closed to traffic at night, for boarders and bladers to romp in. Dual purpose is in these days.
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Re: Building Materials

Post by maiforpeace » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:49 pm

Is carpark the british term for a driveway?

What about rubber? They use shredded rubber to put on hillsides to reduce erosion, and in children's boxes to play in and on, I bet there must be some way to cement the stuff together and make an interesting surface to drive on that would be very green by utilizing old rubber tires. :dono:
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Re: Building Materials

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:54 pm

maiforpeace wrote:Is carpark the british term for a driveway?

What about rubber? They use shredded rubber to put on hillsides to reduce erosion, and in children's boxes to play in and on, I bet there must be some way to cement the stuff together and make an interesting surface to drive on that would be very green by utilizing old rubber tires. :dono:
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