Well done Holland

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Re: Well done Holland

Post by Meekychuppet » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:18 pm

klr wrote:So, we don't know who reported the mutilation, or under what circumstances. I would be very interested indeed to know those details. Part of the reason why this practice survives is the unwillingness of people (extending beyond the victims) to speak out, report, etc.

I wonder if he (and his wife) could ever face charges for gross neglect, for "allowing" this to happen? :coffee:
I very much hope so. It's the girl I feel for of course. This barbarism should have been criminalised universally long ago.
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Re: Well done Holland

Post by lordpasternack » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:31 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Charlou wrote:
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Charlou wrote:The evidence is the daughter's now mutilated genitalia. That along with her testimony that her father used scissors to inflict the mutilation ought to be enough to convict him. Incredibly frustrating that it wasn't.
I wish I could see the logic they employed in reaching that decision. It would be a case study.
Let me help you out. Man standing over a corpse with a smoking gun. The corpse died of gunshot wound. Did he do it?
In your hypothetical presumably the only witness to the crime itself is the dead person, so, without other evidence, we don't know if hedidit. This case is different in that the daughter, herself, is the witness to the mutilation inflicted upon her genitalia.
Now, now, just because he motive, means and opportunity, and we have a witness, doesn't mean he did it. It just means he's the most likely suspect. And until a better one comes along, he's the best suspect.
Meekychuppet wrote:Fortunately for us all, we in the first world are not in the habit of convicting on a 'best fit' basis. The evidence is not there. The witness is also the victim, therefore there is nothing to corroborate the accusation. The evidence is not there.

I genuinely hope you never face a jury made up of people like you.
Hmmmm... What happens in the case of muggings or other assaults where the only people present are the assailent(s) and a single victim? :dono:
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Re: Well done Holland

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:38 pm

lordpasternack wrote:Hmmmm... What happens in the case of muggings or other assaults where the only people present are the assailent(s) and a single victim? :dono:
It would be a victim-less crime, I guess.
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Post by Meekychuppet » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:43 pm

lordpasternack wrote:Hmmmm... What happens in the case of muggings or other assaults where the only people present are the assailent(s) and a single victim? :dono:
Well, we already know this. Many of these crimes go unpunished, and the ones that are prosecuted are done so with the one thing that is missing from this case, namely forensic evidence.
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Re: Well done Holland

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:46 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:
lordpasternack wrote:Hmmmm... What happens in the case of muggings or other assaults where the only people present are the assailent(s) and a single victim? :dono:
Well, we already know this. Many of these crimes go unpunished, and the ones that are prosecuted are done so with the one thing that is missing from this case, namely forensic evidence.
In the US we don't simply dismiss out of hand the claims of the victim or the alibis of the accused. We allow them to fight it out in a trial.
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Re: Well done Holland

Post by Meekychuppet » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:21 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
lordpasternack wrote:Hmmmm... What happens in the case of muggings or other assaults where the only people present are the assailent(s) and a single victim? :dono:
Well, we already know this. Many of these crimes go unpunished, and the ones that are prosecuted are done so with the one thing that is missing from this case, namely forensic evidence.
In the US we don't simply dismiss out of hand the claims of the victim or the alibis of the accused. We allow them to fight it out in a trial.
Which is exactly what happened here, so what is your point?
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