Carbon emission reduction: News and technology

[Brian Peacock]

Where did I promise courtesy ??....especially to someone who is notoriously shit disturbing for it's own sake.

Why have you got such an itchy arse about this? I'm not disputing what you quoted - I would just like to know where it's from/who said it/published it. And it's not a courtesy to me necessarily or specifically, but to your fellow forum members generally.

I think what you find disturbing is simply having your assumptions challenged tbh.

Either do your homework and counter argue or get dissed for vacuous claims like

But the economics shows us that renewables are a net addition to energy capacity rather than a replacement for fossil.

Renewables are already replacing fossil fuels on a global scale and will continue to....

Well now I know you definitely haven't been paying attention - to anything but your own guff:

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[Brian Peacock]

I think Brian is anti-energy as it represents consumerism. He's a commie, after all.

Nope. Distributive energy and science are the underpinning architecture of our civilization. I'm not a communist - more of a Library Socialist.

What I'm anti is suffering - specifically needless suffering willfully inflicted on the vast majority of living creatures simply to secure and maintain the social status of a perpetually insecure and unhappy few.

[Svartalf]

well, even commies need energy to warm their communal dens in winter and watch Big Brother's TV allocutions

[pErvinalia]

You can burn rich people for energy.

[Svartalf]

bhah, not enough of those to fulfill the needs of the Masses, and burning them releases too much bad stuff anyway.

[Brian Peacock]

You can burn rich people for energy.

[macdoc]

150 years of carbon free power

White elephant? Hardly – Snowy 2.0 will last 150 years and work with batteries to push out gas
Published: October 22, 2025 4.02pm AEDT
On sunny and windy days, Australia now regularly produces more electricity than it can use. As a result, wholesale electricity prices can become negative. This means energy storage companies are being paid to take and store excess electricity.

https://theconversation.com/white-eleph ... gas-267413

[pErvinalia]

150 years? In 10 years we'll be in an AI hellscape. AI won't need hydro power. They'll use us as living power cells.

[Brian Peacock]

But seriously. The finance around AI has a very similar vibe to the conditions before the 2007/8 crash. AI companies are massively talking up annualised revenues to attract investment (debt) while burying the stupendous training, inference and compute costs in opaque structures like revenue exchanges (e.g. Open AI gives a % of it's income to Microsoft and Microsoft in turn gives a % of its income from Bing AI back to Open AI) and collateralised debt obligations (e.g. a kind of pawning relationship where a company loans AI infrastructure and/or ip rights to a third party for cash, then uses that cash to lease/license it back from the people they've lent it to).

[Brian Peacock]

More than 300 big agriculture lobbyists have taken part in Cop30, investigation finds

More than 300 industrial agriculture lobbyists have participated at this year’s UN climate talks taking place in the Brazilian Amazon, where the industry is the leading cause of deforestation, a new investigation has found.

The number of lobbyists representing the interests of industrial cattle farming, commodity grains and pesticides is up 14% on last year’s summit in Baku – and larger than the delegation of the world’s 10th largest economy, Canada, which brought 220 delegates to Cop30 in Belém, according to the joint investigation by DeSmog and the Guardian.

One in four of the big agriculture lobbyists (77) are participating at Cop30 as part of an official country delegation, with a small subset (six) with privileged access to the UN negotiations where countries are meant to hash out ambitious policies to curtail global climate catastrophe.

Agriculture is responsible for a quarter to a third of global emissions and scientists say it will be impossible to meet the goals of the 2015 Paris agreement without radical changes to the way we produce and consume food.

Cattle ranching is the biggest driver of deforestation in the Amazon, followed by the industrial production of soy, which is mostly used for animal feed. Scientists have warned that as much as half of the Amazon rainforest could hit a tipping point by 2050 as a result of water stress, land clearance and climate disruption.

“More than 300 agribusiness lobbyists occupy the space at Cop30 that should belong to the forest peoples. While they talk about energy transition, they release oil into the Amazon’s basin and privatize rivers like the Tapajós for soy. For us, this is not development, it is violence,” said Vandria Borari of the Borari Kuximawara Indigenous Association of the Alter do Chão territory...

How's the burger?

[Brian Peacock]

The fossil sector has killed the COP process.

[Svartalf]

Looks like it, even the vaunted Paris agreements, are they already 10 year old? have yielded next to nothing in spite of all the hype made around them at the time... and subsequent COP things have resulted in effectively nothing at all.

[Sean Hayden]

If movies taught me anything, it's that bad guys aren't giving up an advantage just to save a planet for somebody else!

[Brian Peacock]

Aye. For some reason obligations to the social order always seem to override obligations to humanity, or even the environments, organisms or natural systems upon which even the social order depends. The Pursuance of Pecuniary Profit is a cargo cult, and we've all been press-ganged into membership whether we like it or not.

[Sean Hayden]

Yeah, that’s what I just said.