Will Musk be the next Trump?

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Post by Tero » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:30 am

Anybody need a nazi? Slovakia? Hungary? We can send you ours.
“Musk has cultivated, attracts and also welcomes people in all various media who support his views and Nawfal is an example of that,” said Paul Levinson, a professor of communication and media studies at Fordham University.

In Nawfal’s interview with Lukashenko, the Belarusian president praised Trump and blamed the war in Ukraine on the west. Lukashenko has been in power for three decades, winning an election in January 2025 with nearly 88% of the vote. The election has been characterized as a sham by western governments as he has jailed or exiled all opposition dissident leaders.

Belarusian and Russian governments promoted the interviews with Lavrov and Lukashenko, claiming they were done with a “US blogger”.

Nawfal said this characterization was “factually incorrect and misleading” as he is Australian and lives in Dubai, but did not comment on the Belarusian and Russian governments characterizing and promoting the interviews with the error.

Paul Goode, a Russian studies professor at Carleton University, said it is highly improbable what Lukashenko said was not vetted by the Kremlin, given the country’s close ties with Russia and Putin.

Ian Garner, an assistant professor of Russia, war and propaganda at the Pilecki Institute in Warsaw, Poland, noted the level of access these figures give Nawfal.

“They don’t tend to typically give interviews to anyone but friendly media,” he said.

Garner said the blogger sphere that Nawfal inhabits is “very convenient for somebody that is trying to spread propaganda” and to show support between the US right and Russia.
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Re: Will Musk be the next Trump?

Post by Tero » Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:58 pm

Social Security head completely under DOGE control:
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Now, only weeks into his tenure, he was taking a far more ambivalent posture toward not just DOGE but Trump. On multiple occasions during last week’s meeting, according to the recording, Dudek framed the choices that he has been making in recent weeks as “the president’s” agenda. These choices have included planned cuts of at least 7,000 Social Security employees; buyouts and early retirement offered to the entire staff of 57,000, including those who work in field offices and teleservice centers helping elderly and disabled people navigate the program; cuts to disability determination services; the dissolution of a team that had been working to improve the user experience of the ssa.gov website and application process; a reduction of the agency’s footprint across the country from 10 regional offices to four; the terminations of 64 leases, including those for some field office and hearing office space; proposals to outsource Social Security customer service; and more.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:35 am

Cracks are forming in Elon Musk’s armor of lies
As Elon Musk moves to dismiss a lawsuit from Tesla shareholders claiming he failed his fiduciary duties, OpenAI is now suing Musk and exposing lies, which could help Tesla shareholders. It looks like cracks are forming in Elon Musk’s armor of lies.

Last year, Tesla investors sued Musk for breach of fiduciary duty and resource tunneling over the founding of xAI, a private AI company under his control.
Musk had previously stated that Tesla would be a major player in AI and that AI products would be critical to Tesla’s future, but in early 2024, the CEO threatened not to build AI products at Tesla if he didn’t get more control over the company by getting more shares.

He also redirected NVIDIA AI hardware acquired by Tesla to xAI and hired Tesla employees to work at xAI.
In short, Tesla shareholders argue that Musk is in breach of his fiduciary duties to shareholders by creating a private company that competes directly with Tesla. The lawsuit also cites similar issues with Musk’s acquisition of Twitter.
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Post by Tero » Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:37 am

Doge finds people ripping us off, appearing and disappearing! Only, some were in witness protection before DOGE leaked them to other people in gov't who did not have access to all sensitive data.
Exclusive: Some aren’t even fraud but rather known attempts by states to protect victims of identity theft, former top official says

In a series of late-night posts on X last week, Elon Musk and his so-called “department of government efficiency” revealed the seemingly startling findings of their “initial survey” into unemployment benefits.

They cited examples of claimants who were deceased, between one and five years old, or not born yet. They even cited one case of someone with a listed birthday in 2154 allegedly claiming $41,000.

News of the claims swept across rightwing media, including Fox News and Breitbart, and were attributed to Doge. They were repeated by the secretary of labor, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, who declared during a cabinet meeting with Donald Trump that the revelations were the latest to be “exposed by our partners at Doge”.

“Your tax dollars were going to pay fraudulent unemployment claims for fake people born in the future!” Musk wrote on X, his social network. “There was no sanity check for impossibly young or impossibly old people for unemployment insurance.”

But there was, in reality, a “sanity check” of unemployment claims years before Doge launched its blitz of the federal government – including under Joe Biden. People previously involved with the process say Doge’s claims are lifted from it.

“They’re coming up like they uncovered something brand-new,” Andrew Stettner, who served as the director of unemployment insurance modernization at the US Department of Labor in the Biden administration, told the Guardian. “Going back in 2020 to say there was a lot of fraud – that’s the definition of old news.”


Though Doge and Musk failed to cite the survey, or the agency it came from, the US Department of Labor’s office of inspector general is tasked with auditing state unemployment benefit systems.

“They got some access to data from the Department of Labor and office of inspector general, and are trying to make conclusions without doing a full audit or understanding the content,” said Stettner.

Elizabeth Pancotti, managing director of policy and advocacy at the economic thinktank Groundwork Collaborative, said: “What you have is the issue of an outside person who doesn’t know anything coming in and claiming that everything’s broken. The public should be really skeptical of Elon Musk’s claims.”

“For the most part, he and his gaggle of 20-year-olds are going to these federal agencies of staff who have been there for five, 10, 15, 20 years working on these programs,” added Pancotti. “For the most part, these programs work as intended.

“And now you have people coming in, spending five minutes looking at them and claiming that there’s widespread fraud, or they’re broken or they could be fixed in these ways.”
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:02 pm

well well well, if doge is doxxing people in witness protection, does it have moral personality to take the lawsuits or will people have to go after individual emplyees and their bosses, musk and frump?
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Post by Tero » Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:45 pm

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybe ... 025-04-15/
WASHINGTON, April 15 (Reuters) - A whistleblower complaint says that billionaire Elon Musk's team of technologists may have been responsible for a "significant cybersecurity breach," likely of sensitive case files, at America's federal labor watchdog.
The complaint, opens new tab, addressed to Republican Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Tom Cotton and his Democratic counterpart Mark Warner and made public Tuesday by the group Whistleblower Aid, draws on the testimony of Daniel Berulis, an information technology staffer at the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB).

The NLRB, a New Deal-era agency that is tasked with protecting workers' rights to organize and join unions, has for years been a target of America's corporate titans - including Musk - some of whom are now seeking to have the agency's powers declared unconstitutional.
In an affidavit, Berulis said he had evidence that DOGE staffers were given extraordinarily sweeping access to the NLRB's systems, which house sensitive case files. He said that beginning in early March, logging protocols created to audit users appeared to have been tampered with, and that he had detected the removal of about 10 gigabytes worth of data from NLRB's network sometime thereafter.

Berulis told Reuters in an interview Tuesday that the data in question includes proprietary business information from competitors, union organization and unfair labor practice respondents and their claims, including private affidavits.
"That kind of spike is extremely unusual because data almost never directly leaves NLRB's databases," Berulis said in his affidavit.
A spokesperson for Musk's team - officially known as U.S. DOGE Service - didn't immediately return a message seeking comment. A message left with the NLRB also wasn't immediately returned, although NPR, which first reported the story, opens new tab, quoted an NLRB spokesperson as disputing Berulis' claims and saying there had been no breach. Cotton and Warner didn't immediately return messages seeking comment.
Berulis alleged in the affidavit that there attempted logins to NLRB systems from an IP address in Russia in the days after DOGE accessed the systems. He told Reuters Tuesday that the attempted logins apparently included correct username and password combinations but were rejected by location-related conditional access policies.

"Unlike any other time previously, there is this fear to speak out because of reprisal," Berulis told Reuters. "We're seeing data that is traditionally safeguarded with the highest standards in the United States government being taken and the people that do try to stop it from happening, the people that are saying no, they're being removed one by one."
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Post by Cunt » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:43 pm

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1912942884132933799

https://x.com/i/status/1912942884132933799

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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:32 am

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well well well, if doge is doxxing people in witness protection, does it have moral personality to take the lawsuits or will people have to go after individual emplyees and their bosses, musk and frump?
If they do they're likely to end up 'accidentally' (cough) sentenced to life in a foreign megaprison without a trail.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:51 am

Are you referring to the chap who was deported back to his home country? Then jailed there for his crimes?
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What crimes? Can you link to his trial?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:52 am

He means the moral crime of being born outside of the united states.
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Cunt wrote:
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Are you referring to the chap who was deported back to his home country? Then jailed there for his crimes?
What crimes? The letter you posted by Garcia's wife is for spousal abuse claim. Used for custody and divorce cases. What other crimes has Garcia been arrested for? Wearing a Bulls cap backwards?
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:08 pm

I think he's an impressive young man. He's a gangbanger with no criminal record at 30. He's breaking trends. --bravo-- And looking for work outside Home Depot and Lowes, that's a nice touch, clever man, seriously.

Honestly, the only guy more impressive in all this is the unidentified source that saw through the bullshit, bet that guy goes far.
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Post by Cunt » Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:27 pm

Did he illegally enter the US?

Because if he did, due process means getting shipped home.

As to whether he is a gangbanger, the judges in the US thought he was, but they aren't important. His home country thinks he is, so he is being held in their gang reeducation camp.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:37 pm

1. There is a court order stating that he is not to be deported to El Salvador

2. He was deported by mistake not only to El Salvador but to a prison there

I'm not sure what part of that you don't understand. You're arguing like it doesn't exist. It'd be more believable if you acknowledged the problem and then provided your solution. But nobody is supposed to be above the law.

It's okay that you don't get this. Few people without actual experience on either side of the law do. But rest assured, the courts aren't going to make an exception for the government regarding their conveniently forgetting a court order. They aren't above the law.
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