Russia invades Ukraine again?

[aufbahrung]

Always apocalypse tomorrow, eh Crumple...

Down to me that the hypothetical can is forever being kicked down the road. A thankless task, but someone has to do it...consciousness of peril raising

[Brian Peacock]

Have you adopted any complimentary esoteric practices to help you manifest this reality?

[rainbow]

Putin chosen his mark - Canada - maybe it will be Canada, knowing Trump doesn't like the shadow kingdom lurking constantly above

*moredrivel*

There, there

A year from today, see what happens?

Yes, Cassandra.

[Sean Hayden]

—fraid it’s only memes today…

[aufbahrung]

Trump will talk Putin down - ace negotiator, the sort you'd want talking the talk to a madman with nukes

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, I'm sure the threat of withdrawing military support for Ukraine will make them agree to anything Putin wants.

[pErvinalia]

Putin has free reign to take the rest of Ukraine when Trump stops funding them. What's Trump going to do if Putin tells him to go jump?

[rainbow]

Putin has free reign to take the rest of Ukraine when Trump stops funding them. What's Trump going to do if Putin tells him to go jump?

take the piss?

[Tyrannical]

Putin has free reign to take the rest of Ukraine when Trump stops funding them. What's Trump going to do if Putin tells him to go jump?

take the piss?

Trump's going to say "Maybe we were wrong to disarm Ukraine and we should give them their nuclear weapons back"

[rainbow]

Putin has free reign to take the rest of Ukraine when Trump stops funding them. What's Trump going to do if Putin tells him to go jump?

take the piss?

Trump's going to say "Maybe we were wrong to disarm Ukraine and we should give them their nuclear weapons back"

Wrong.
Trump cares about:
1. Trump
2. Trump
3. Trump
4. Trump's legacy
5. Trump Jnr
6. Israel.
7. Ukraine

...in that order

[pErvinalia]

You forgot Russia.

[L'Emmerdeur]

And Junior has no place on the list. Ivanka though. As he's said more than once, if she weren't his daughter he'd be 'dating' her.

[JimC]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-10/ ... /104702614

ut in Moscow, the defeat of a Putin ally has delivered a seismic shock.

Along with delivering a metaphorical defeat to the Russian leader's global ambitions and hurting its credibility as a reliable security partner, Russia's naval base at Tartus and its air base at Latakia are now at great risk.

The real question is whether Russia will be able to keep them.

"The anti-Assad forces that have just prevailed may not be inclined to let them stay — especially since Russian warplanes based in Syria had repeatedly bombed them right up until recently," said Mark N Katz, a nonresident senior fellow with the Atlantic Council's Middle East Programs and professor emeritus at the George Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government.

According to the Institute for the Study of War, the Kremlin reportedly secured an agreement on December 8 with unspecified Syrian opposition leaders to ensure the security of its military bases in Syria.

But it said the "contours of this arrangement and its longevity remain unclear given the volatile and rapidly evolving political situation" on the ground.

The outcome may depend on how the next few days play out and if a power struggle ensues among the victors in Syria.

"This may provide Moscow with an opportunity to work with some against others," Professor Katz said.

In the meantime, Russia's influence in Syria remains at risk.

"Still, Moscow retaining its naval and air base may not be possible, either because a new Sunni-dominated Syrian government proves to be strong and expels the Russians, or because Syria descends into such chaos that the safety of the bases cannot be maintained," he said.

[Tero]

That was close. We get to keep Poland. Maybe even Lithuania. Even though it would give a road to Kaliningrad.

Elsewhere:

I think that there is about zero chance of Congress will provide funding to Ukraine. I’m not sure that Ukraine will fall, I think that Trump will strong arm Zelenski to end to war leaving the parts of Ukraine that Russia took over in Putin’s hands. I think that Putin will take the win and spend the next few years rebuilding, at which point may try to go for the rest before Trump leaves office. Even if Ukraine does fall I don’t see any way that Putin will go for Poland. He pretty much exhausted his military going after Ukraine and almost got his ass kicked I doubt he will want to try again in the foreseeable future, certainly not head to head with NATO.

Buck_Godot
Guest

[Tyrannical]

That was close. We get to keep Poland. Maybe even Lithuania. Even though it would give a road to Kaliningrad.

Elsewhere:

I think that there is about zero chance of Congress will provide funding to Ukraine. I’m not sure that Ukraine will fall, I think that Trump will strong arm Zelenski to end to war leaving the parts of Ukraine that Russia took over in Putin’s hands. I think that Putin will take the win and spend the next few years rebuilding, at which point may try to go for the rest before Trump leaves office. Even if Ukraine does fall I don’t see any way that Putin will go for Poland. He pretty much exhausted his military going after Ukraine and almost got his ass kicked I doubt he will want to try again in the foreseeable future, certainly not head to head with NATO.

Buck_Godot
Guest

Putin... It's like if Hitler spent four years trying to invade Poland. With out nuclear weapons that probably don't even work, Russia would be be a non-threat.