All Things Trump: the story continues...
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The Republican former president was the only person charged in the case, though prosecutors referenced six unnamed co-conspirators, mostly lawyers, they say he plotted with, including in a scheme to enlist fake electors in seven battleground states won by Democrat Joe Biden to submit false certificates to the federal government.
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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan’s attorney general filed felony charges Tuesday against 16 Republicans who acted as fake electors for then-President Donald Trump in 2020, accusing them of submitting false certificates that confirmed they were legitimate electors despite Joe Biden’s victory in the state.
The Republican former president was the only person charged in the case, though prosecutors referenced six unnamed co-conspirators, mostly lawyers, they say he plotted with, including in a scheme to enlist fake electors in seven battleground states won by Democrat Joe Biden to submit false certificates to the federal government.
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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan’s attorney general filed felony charges Tuesday against 16 Republicans who acted as fake electors for then-President Donald Trump in 2020, accusing them of submitting false certificates that confirmed they were legitimate electors despite Joe Biden’s victory in the state.
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Trump clearly was inexperienced. He dis not practice using the insurrection act:
Would the military have obeyed and carried out Trump's orders? It's impossible to know, but I am somewhat skeptical. By the end of his
presidency, top military leaders and most of the military's officer corps disapproved of Trump's norm-breaking political style, and it's possible they would've seen themselves as the key bulwark against a coup. When Trump floated the idea of using the Insurrection Act in the summer of 2020 to suppress Black Lives Matter protests, then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper publicly broke with Trump on the policy, arguing that troops should not be deployed to the streets. And Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley reportedly resisted Trump's demands to shoot protesters in a show of force that year, and he apologized for appearing with Trump in Lafayette Square after protesters were cleared out in June 2020 because, he said, it “created the perception of the military involved in domestic politics.”
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Would the military have obeyed and carried out Trump's orders? It's impossible to know, but I am somewhat skeptical. By the end of his
presidency, top military leaders and most of the military's officer corps disapproved of Trump's norm-breaking political style, and it's possible they would've seen themselves as the key bulwark against a coup. When Trump floated the idea of using the Insurrection Act in the summer of 2020 to suppress Black Lives Matter protests, then-Defense Secretary Mark Esper publicly broke with Trump on the policy, arguing that troops should not be deployed to the streets. And Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley reportedly resisted Trump's demands to shoot protesters in a show of force that year, and he apologized for appearing with Trump in Lafayette Square after protesters were cleared out in June 2020 because, he said, it “created the perception of the military involved in domestic politics.”
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Trump was told not to tamper with jurors. This is never used by a judge normally.
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Surely the phone call to the guy in Georgia, urging him to alter the results, is actionable...
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We can only charge him in Georgia for that. As precaution in case he wins the election. He cannot pardon himself for that.
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Trump says the government is interfering with elections. His electing himself back. He should have thought of that while he could still make himself a dictator.
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Of course the government interferes in elections, they run them. And that’s how it should be. They need to manage them better. Why is Trump even an option 8 years ago? —maybe Clinton too…
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After being told not tobthreaten the court, Trump went directly...
New Trump video attacks prosecutors who have brought cases against him or are investigating him
From CNN's Kate Sullivan
Donald Trump’s campaign released a new video Friday attacking the prosecutors who have brought cases against or are investigating the former president one day after Trump was arrested and arraigned for a third time.
The video attacks federal special prosecutor Jack Smith, New York Attorney General Letitia James, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and dubs the group the “Fraud Squad.”
“Meet the cast of unscrupulous accomplices he’s assembled to get Trump,” the narrator says in the video.
New Trump video attacks prosecutors who have brought cases against him or are investigating him
From CNN's Kate Sullivan
Donald Trump’s campaign released a new video Friday attacking the prosecutors who have brought cases against or are investigating the former president one day after Trump was arrested and arraigned for a third time.
The video attacks federal special prosecutor Jack Smith, New York Attorney General Letitia James, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and dubs the group the “Fraud Squad.”
“Meet the cast of unscrupulous accomplices he’s assembled to get Trump,” the narrator says in the video.
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Trump has a theme: " I am you."
"They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom," Trump said. "They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you.
"In the end, they’re not after me, they’re after you — and I’m just standing in their way."
"They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom," Trump said. "They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you.
"In the end, they’re not after me, they’re after you — and I’m just standing in their way."
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He's a dangerous man.
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Trump lawyers getting their grubby hands on testimony will be...difficult:
On his Truth Social site, the former president wrote, “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” on Friday afternoon, a day after he pleaded not guilty to charges that he orchestrated a criminal conspiracy to try to reverse his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.
In the filing in the Washington federal court, the office of special counsel Jack Smith said Trump’s post raised concerns that he might publicly reveal secret material, such as grand jury transcripts, obtained from prosecutors.
Donald Trump waves as he steps off his plane at Ronald Reagan airport on his way to his court arraignment on Thursday.
Trump looked like ‘scared puppy’ on way to court, Nancy Pelosi says
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Under the process known as discovery, prosecutors are required to provide defendants with the evidence against them so they can prepare their defense.
“It could have a harmful chilling effect on witnesses or adversely affect the fair administration of justice in this case,” prosecutors wrote, noting that Trump has a history of attacking judges, attorneys and witnesses in other cases against him.
The prosecutors’ filing asked US district judge Tanya Chutkan to issue a protective order prohibiting Trump and his lawyers from sharing any discovery materials with unauthorized people.
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On his Truth Social site, the former president wrote, “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” on Friday afternoon, a day after he pleaded not guilty to charges that he orchestrated a criminal conspiracy to try to reverse his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.
In the filing in the Washington federal court, the office of special counsel Jack Smith said Trump’s post raised concerns that he might publicly reveal secret material, such as grand jury transcripts, obtained from prosecutors.
Donald Trump waves as he steps off his plane at Ronald Reagan airport on his way to his court arraignment on Thursday.
Trump looked like ‘scared puppy’ on way to court, Nancy Pelosi says
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Under the process known as discovery, prosecutors are required to provide defendants with the evidence against them so they can prepare their defense.
“It could have a harmful chilling effect on witnesses or adversely affect the fair administration of justice in this case,” prosecutors wrote, noting that Trump has a history of attacking judges, attorneys and witnesses in other cases against him.
The prosecutors’ filing asked US district judge Tanya Chutkan to issue a protective order prohibiting Trump and his lawyers from sharing any discovery materials with unauthorized people.
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Joe Biden to share a cell with Bill Cosby? After Trump locks him up.
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“Every time they file an indictment we go way up in the polls. We need one more indictment close out this election. One more indictment and this election is closed out, nobody has even a chance,” Trump said.
The former president told the crowd that “the only civil rights that have been violated in this matter are my civil rights,” and he again vowed political retribution if he were to win the 2020 election, including a special prosecutor to investigate claims related to President Joe Biden.
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“Every time they file an indictment we go way up in the polls. We need one more indictment close out this election. One more indictment and this election is closed out, nobody has even a chance,” Trump said.
The former president told the crowd that “the only civil rights that have been violated in this matter are my civil rights,” and he again vowed political retribution if he were to win the 2020 election, including a special prosecutor to investigate claims related to President Joe Biden.
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I think this is going to get really nasty. Not "That nasty woman..." nasty, but 'nasty nasty' nasty.
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Plans are being constructed.
'Jack Smith Has an Indictment. Trump Has a Massive Plan for Revenge'
'Trump's "Agenda 47" is no joke'
'Jack Smith Has an Indictment. Trump Has a Massive Plan for Revenge'
The above is apparently on top of the so-called 'Agenda 47':Donald Trump is a long, long way from winning the GOP primary, let alone retaking the White House. But he always has revenge on his mind, and his allies are preparing to use a future administration to not only undo all of Special Counsel Jack Smith’s work — but to take vengeance on Smith, and on virtually everyone else, who dared investigate Trump during his time out of power.
Rosters full of MAGAfied lawyers are being assembled. Plans are being laid for an entire new office of the Justice Department dedicated to “election integrity.” An assembly line is being prepared of revenge-focused “special counsels” and “special prosecutors.” Gameplans for making Smith’s life hell, starting in Jan. 2025, have already been discussed with Trump himself. And a fresh wave of pardons is under consideration for Trump associates, election deniers, and — the former president boasts — for Jan. 6 rioters.
The preparations have been underway since at least last year, with Trump being briefed on the designs by an array of attorneys, political and policy advisers, former administration officials, and other allies. The aim is to build a government-in-waiting with the hard-right infrastructure needed to turn the Justice Department into an instrument of Trump’s agenda, according to five sources familiar with these matters and another two people briefed on them.
Trump’s spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment on this story.
One idea that has caught thrice-indicted former president’s attention in recent months is the creation of the so-called “Office of Election Integrity,” which would be a new unit inside the Justice Department. It would be tasked not only with relitigating Trump’s lies about his 2020 election loss, but also with aggressively pursuing baseless allegations of election “fraud” (including in Democratic strongholds) in ways that Trumpist partisans believe the department has only flirted with in the past.
'Trump's "Agenda 47" is no joke'
Agenda 47 would consist of an end to birthright citizenship, further criminalizing transgender people and the LGBTQI community more broadly, expanding the thought crime and other censorship laws to end the teaching of "critical race theory" and to defeat "Woke" and "Black Lives Matter", attacking academic freedom and replacing it with "patriot education", implementing a national stop and frisk law, pardoning the Jan. 6 terrorists, putting homeless people in camps or some other designated area under threat of arrest, building high tech "freedom cities",, ending the professional civil service and replacing it with right-wing political appointees and other such partisan agents, gutting the Department of Justice and other parts of the government that opposed Trump's attacks on democracy and the rule of law, executing drug dealers, starting a trade war with China, and making "peace" with Vladimir Putin by withdrawing support for the Ukrainian people and their freedom struggle. In many ways, Agenda 47 is a continuation of the fascist and other authoritarian policies Trump put in place during his first regime but now made even more extreme and cruel.
For the most part (the Washington Post being a notable exception), the American mainstream media and political class have responded to Trump's Agenda 47 and its earlier iterations with a combination of laughs, mocking, schadenfreude, and indifference. And of course, there were the obvious jokes about the Jetsons cartoon with its flying cars and futuristic cities.
But nothing about Agenda 47 is childish, innocent, or funny. Fascism in its various forms is a revolutionary project that draws inspiration from a fictive past and "golden age" in order to destroy the current order and replace with some type of ideal society based upon the authoritarian leader and the movement. Trump's Agenda 47 fits that model almost perfectly.
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