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Post by Seabass » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:46 pm

Seabass wrote:
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Eating horse paste and going blind to own the libs.

These destructive idiots shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a hospital until this pandemic is over.
Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

SOUTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA, Okla. (KFOR) – A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.

“There’s a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff, because it can be dangerous,” said Dr. Jason McElyea.

Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse, because they believed false claims the horse de-wormer could fight COVID-19.

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” he said.

That’s something McElyea said is now backing up ambulance systems as well.

“All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don’t have any, that’s it,” said Dr. McElyea. “If there’s no ambulance to take the call, there’s no ambulance to come to the call.”

The doctor said many of his patients aren’t afraid of ivermectin. Many of them have used it on their livestock.

“Growing up in a small town, rural area, we’ve all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it’s something people are familiar with. Because of those accidental sticks, when trying to inoculate cattle, they’re less afraid of it,” he said.

Now, the rural patients are going into their local agricultural or tractor supply store, ignoring the warning signs surrounding the products, and figuring out a dosage themselves.

“Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they’d caught COVID,” said the doctor.

Dr. McElyea said the patients are suffering from nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and cramping, and that’s only in minor cases.

“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” he said.

Even the manufacturer states there is no scientific basis or meaningful evidence Ivermectin is effective against COVID. However, many of the tractor supply stores say their shelves are empty.

“You have to ask yourself, ‘If I take this medicine, what am I going to do if something bad happens?’ What’s your next step, what’s your backup plan?” the doctor said. “If you’re going to take a medicine that could affect your health, do it with a doctor on board. Make those decisions with a thoroughly vetted opinion. There’s a lot of schooling that goes into that. It’s not just something you look on the internet for and decide if it’s the right dose.”
https://kfor.com/news/local/patients-ov ... mbulances/
Here's Fox News pushing Ivermectin hard. How can so many people be this gullible?

Fox News misinforms public by hyping horse dewormer as COVID 19 treatment
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:04 pm

rainbow wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:48 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:26 pm


You are the one claiming that you only accept "absolute data", but don't actually know what you're talking about.

Answer the question.
Unsupported claim. What is your proof?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:02 am

Seabass wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:26 pm
Eating horse paste and going blind to own the libs.

These destructive idiots shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a hospital until this pandemic is over.
Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

SOUTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA, Okla. (KFOR) – A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.

“There’s a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff, because it can be dangerous,” said Dr. Jason McElyea.

Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse, because they believed false claims the horse de-wormer could fight COVID-19.

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” he said.

That’s something McElyea said is now backing up ambulance systems as well.

“All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don’t have any, that’s it,” said Dr. McElyea. “If there’s no ambulance to take the call, there’s no ambulance to come to the call.”

The doctor said many of his patients aren’t afraid of ivermectin. Many of them have used it on their livestock.

“Growing up in a small town, rural area, we’ve all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it’s something people are familiar with. Because of those accidental sticks, when trying to inoculate cattle, they’re less afraid of it,” he said.

Now, the rural patients are going into their local agricultural or tractor supply store, ignoring the warning signs surrounding the products, and figuring out a dosage themselves.

“Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they’d caught COVID,” said the doctor.

Dr. McElyea said the patients are suffering from nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and cramping, and that’s only in minor cases.

“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” he said.

Even the manufacturer states there is no scientific basis or meaningful evidence Ivermectin is effective against COVID. However, many of the tractor supply stores say their shelves are empty.

“You have to ask yourself, ‘If I take this medicine, what am I going to do if something bad happens?’ What’s your next step, what’s your backup plan?” the doctor said. “If you’re going to take a medicine that could affect your health, do it with a doctor on board. Make those decisions with a thoroughly vetted opinion. There’s a lot of schooling that goes into that. It’s not just something you look on the internet for and decide if it’s the right dose.”
https://kfor.com/news/local/patients-ov ... mbulances/
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:21 am

Seabass wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:46 pm
Fox News misinforms public by hyping horse dewormer as COVID 19 treatment
Yabbut Freedom of Speech! Preventing people from convincing members of the public to take horse medicine that can send them to hospital instead of curing a disease is the New McCarthyism!
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:28 am

Meanwhile, in New South Wales the situation is rapidly deteriorating. The rolling 7 day average of new, community spread Covid-19 New cases have reached the 3-digit range two weeks ago and the 4-digit range last week.

                   Cases    Deaths
03/09/21	   1432         12
02/09/21	   1280          7
01/09/21	   1102          4
31/08/21	   1151          4
30/08/21	   1273          3
29/08/21	   1213          6
28/08/21	   1026          2
27/08/21	     875          2
26/08/21	   1016          3
25/08/21	     910          2


Right now 973 Covid patients are hospitalised, 160 of them in intensive care units and 63 on ventilators Two weeks ago the numbers were 515, 85 and 29 respectively.

37% of the population over the age of 16 is fully vaccinated. The Premier thinks herd immunity will be reached at the 70% mark and everybody will be free to do what they like once more. She's fucking dreaming.

The mess is squarely down to the Premier. She should have locked Sydney down earlier than she did, harder than she has when she finally had to concede that it could not be avoided, and she should have enforced it rigorously from the start. The main stream media say she is doing a good job in difficult circumstances while bashing Victoria's Premier for actually doing it right. They have always done that. sort of thing. Gladys Berejiklian is a conservative. Daniel Andrews is a moderate social democrat.

A couple of front pages the MSM have come up with during the pandemic:

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This one, published by the Australian Financial Review Magazine on April 30 2021, did not age well, but if you search for some kind of revision of this flattering assessment of the NSW Premier you'll be looking in vain.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:53 am

pErvinalia wrote:How are the hospitals coping in the UK? This should give us some insight into what it will be like when we hit 70-80% vaccination and open back up.
Fairy data available here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


The health service is still not back to full speed. c.8 million elective procedures outstanding. The majority of GP consultations are still by phone and home visits almost non-existent. Rate of diagnostic testing still well short of pre-pandemic levels. An uncounted number of outpatient and clinic appointments still cancelled and/or rescheduled. Regular calls for blood donations in the media.

After decades of telling us that cutting taxes promoted growth and always made life better for everyone the government are now testing the idea of raising income tax to pay for an NHS and social care recovery in the Tory press. No official plans announced so far: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... 10bn-asked


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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:02 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:04 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:48 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:26 pm


You are the one claiming that you only accept "absolute data", but don't actually know what you're talking about.

Answer the question.
Unsupported claim. What is your proof?
Answer
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:08 am

That is only valid for NHS England.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:09 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:08 am
That is only valid for NHS England.
Answer the question.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:10 am

rainbow wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:02 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:04 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:48 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:26 pm


You are the one claiming that you only accept "absolute data", but don't actually know what you're talking about.

Answer the question.
Unsupported claim. What is your proof?
Answer
The
Question
Unsupported claims and misquoting. Anymore for anymore. Go and count your fictive millions.
Answer the question.
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I will not answer unsupported claims. Why should I?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:26 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:10 am
rainbow wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:02 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:04 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:48 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:26 pm


You are the one claiming that you only accept "absolute data", but don't actually know what you're talking about.

Answer the question.
Unsupported claim. What is your proof?
Answer
The
Question
Unsupported claims and misquoting. Anymore for anymore. Go and count your fictive millions.
Answer the question.
I will not answer unsupported claims. Why should I?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:14 am

Cases not falling to 100 or so as expected. One brave Trumpster died, 2 old people as well, who probably wanted to die.

LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - The Lincoln Lancaster County Health Department reported Thursday that three more people died from COVID-19.

LLCHD said the deaths include a man in his 60s who was hospitalized and vaccinated, a man in his 80s who was hospitalized and unvaccinated, and a woman in her 90s who was not hospitalized and not vaccinated.

The health department also reported another 179 virus cases.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:46 am

Tero wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:14 am
Cases not falling to 100 or so as expected. One brave Trumpster died, 2 old people as well, who probably wanted to die.

LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - The Lincoln Lancaster County Health Department reported Thursday that three more people died from COVID-19.

LLCHD said the deaths include a man in his 60s who was hospitalized and vaccinated, a man in his 80s who was hospitalized and unvaccinated, and a woman in her 90s who was not hospitalized and not vaccinated.

The health department also reported another 179 virus cases.
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Unsupported claim.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:38 pm

Oops, the 60s guy was vaccinated. Oh wel, "health issues" then, not vaccine. We have a small part locally who got the J and J. Cause they hate needles. One dose is given.

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