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by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:21 pm
Seabass wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:45 pm
Olivia Troye is a Republican who worked for Pence inside the Trump administration. This is her response to right-wing media claims that Trump would have gotten everyone out safely.
https://twitter.com/OliviaTroye/status/ ... 5665679361
There were cabinet mtgs about this during the Trump Admin where Stephen Miller would peddle his racist hysteria about Iraq & Afghanistan. He & his enablers across gov’t would undermine anyone who worked on solving the SIV issue by devastating the system at DHS & State.(1/7)
I tracked this issue personally in my role during my WH tenure. Pence was fully aware of the problem. We got nowhere on it because Trump/S. Miller had watchdogs in place at DOJ, DHS, State & security agencies that made an already cumbersome SIV process even more challenging.(2/7)
I met w/ numerous external organizations during my White House tenure who advocated for refugees & pleaded for help in getting US allies through the process. I got the phone calls & letters as the homeland security & CT advisor to Pence…(3/7)
The system wouldn’t budge, regardless of how much this was argued about in National Security Council mtgs. The Pentagon weighed in saying we needed to get these allies through the process-Mattis/others sent memos. We all knew the urgency but the resources had been depleted.(4/7)
The fear of people across the Trump Admin to counter these enablers was palpable. There were numerous behind closed door meetings held-strategizing how to navigate this issue. The Trump Admin had FOUR years…(5/7)
..Trump had FOUR years-while putting this plan in place-to evacuate these Afghan allies who were the lifelines for many of us who spent time in Afghanistan. They’d been waiting a long time. The process slowed to a trickle for reviews/other “priorities”-then came to a halt.(6/7)
To people like Ben Domenech, JD Vance & others who are making blanket statements & pushing narratives of convenience on Afganistan-especially on the SIV/allies issue-please, just stop. Your comments are uninformed & also hurtful. We see right through you.(7/8)
Grateful for everyone advocating the urgency of getting our allies evacuated out of Afghanistan ASAP & those who are doing everything they can to help. It’s the least we can do for these individuals & it’s a matter of national security. The world is watching.(8/8)
Seabass wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:55 pm
So, you attack Biden...
someone shows you you're being stupid...
then you retreat back to "they're ALL corrupt".
Motte-and-bailey fallacy
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The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions which share similarities, one modest and easy to defend (the "motte") and one much more controversial (the "bailey").[1] The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, they insist that they are only advancing the more modest position.[2][3] Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer can claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte)[1] or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).
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I watched an interview with Troye. She isn't pulling any punches, and rightly so. The Trump administration slowed any work on those visas to a crawl. There are people in Afghanistan right now who've been waiting nearly five years because of that.
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by Joe » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:35 pm
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by Tero » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:25 pm
Biden will get the trllions:
CNN
Ultimately, the House voted on a rule to advance both the budget deal and a separate $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. Due to a procedural maneuver, passage of the rule also approved the budget resolution, bypassing a separate vote. In a concession to moderates, the rule also directs the House to take up the bipartisan bill by September 27.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/24/politics ... index.html
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:23 am
Has Chumocracy finally taken hold in America. How much of the $1 trillion will actually be spent on infrastructure? Are there any inbuilt safeguards?
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by Hermit » Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:52 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:23 am
Has Chumocracy finally taken hold in America. How much of the $1 trillion will actually be spent on infrastructure? Are there any inbuilt safeguards?
Just asking questions.

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by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:19 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:Has Chumocracy finally taken hold in America. How much of the $1 trillion will actually be spent on infrastructure? Are there any inbuilt safeguards?
$3.65
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 am
I think that is a bit optimistic. $0.0 is more like it.
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by Woodbutcher » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:40 pm
Depends on your definition of infrastructure. White infrastructure?
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by Scot Dutchy » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:06 pm
The odd railway line or bridge that is falling down. Maybe something that would reduce carbon emissions would not be a bad idea but I doubt that will happen.
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by rainbow » Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:55 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:06 pm
The odd railway line or bridge that is falling down. Maybe something that would reduce carbon emissions would not be a bad idea but I doubt that will happen.
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by Tero » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:01 pm
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by Scot Dutchy » Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:04 pm
rainbow wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:55 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:06 pm
The odd railway line or bridge that is falling down. Maybe something that would reduce carbon emissions would not be a bad idea but I doubt that will happen.
Do you get your positive worldview from living in the most boring country on the planet?
Do you get any world view from your third world country. Strange for a boring country (your unsupported claim) many people want to live here. Very weird.
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by pErvinalia » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:34 am
rainbow wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:55 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:06 pm
The odd railway line or bridge that is falling down. Maybe something that would reduce carbon emissions would not be a bad idea but I doubt that will happen.
Do you get your positive worldview from living in the most boring country on the planet?

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by rainbow » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:09 am
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:04 pm
rainbow wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:55 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:06 pm
The odd railway line or bridge that is falling down. Maybe something that would reduce carbon emissions would not be a bad idea but I doubt that will happen.
Do you get your positive worldview from living in the most boring country on the planet?
Do you get any world view from your third world country. Strange for a boring country (your unsupported claim) many people want to live here. Very weird.
You forget that I've been to your country.
Where've you been to?
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by pErvinalia » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:14 am
You should really ask - where have you hated going to? Will give the same answer.
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