The Coronavirus Thread

[Scot Dutchy]

New Zealand is larger than the UK so no, not a "tiny country" FFS and population is very spread out. They have taken a zero covid stance.
So NZ hammers any outbreak with lock downs. Will be difficult with the new strain to contain.

Canada, a large country has taken the vaccination route and reached 75% fully vaccinated ....

You live in a "tiny country" - what's your excuse for only 62%.

Do you have data to support these claims? Of course not. Go and ride your bike.

Where are yours?

Not that it matters. If your assertion that population size made vaccinating it easier were correct, Canada would have a much lower percentage of vaccinations than the Netherlands. It doesn't. In fact, it's a bit higher.

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  Country       Population (million)      Fully vaccinated
Netherlands            17.13                          62%
Canada                   37.74                          66%

Data to support these claims (current on 23-08-2021)

What is fully vaccinated? Another subjective term. It depends on the vaccine. Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) only requires one injection and was greatly used for 18-30 age group.
This of course does not match RIVM data:
Figures on the COVID-19 vaccination programme

By Sunday 22 August, it is estimated that more than 22.6 million vaccinations had been administered in the Netherlands. More than 12.5 million of those were first vaccinations, and more than 10.1 million were second vaccinations. It is estimated that 84.9% of all people over 18 have received a first vaccination by now, and 75.7% are fully vaccinated. This week, these figures are also available for everyone over the age of 12. 82.4% of all people over 12 years old have received a first vaccination, and 72.0% are fully vaccinated.

Macdoc should stick to his tellies and his gas guzzling motor bike.
Where are the exact figures in Canada?

[Scot Dutchy]

Well hard headed Fernland keeps on heading the wall:

New Zealand won’t ‘throw in towel’ on Covid-zero strategy despite rising infections

Covid response minister says it would be a waste to stop aiming for elimination after plan was questioned by foreign media

New Zealand’s Covid response minister says the country will not “throw in the towel” with its elimination strategy, as cases continue to rise.

New Zealand announced 63 new cases of Covid-19 on Wednesday, bringing the total to 210 cases. It is the largest single-day jump since the outbreak began last week, and 12 people are hospitalised with the virus.

Some commentators and media overseas have questioned whether the country should continue its elimination strategy, but Covid-19 response minister Chris Hipkins said the country would be staying its course.

“To New Zealanders at home who are saying, ‘is this still the right strategy’, it’s too soon to throw in the towel,” he said. “We’ve come this far, it would be an absolute waste for us to give up on this now. We still want to drive this particular outbreak of Covid-19 out of our community and get back to a sense of normality.”

“Of course we do want to get to the point where lockdowns aren’t the answer to potential outbreaks within the community, but we’re not there yet, and we’re certainly not willing to give up before we get to that point,” Hipkins said.


The director general of health, Ashley Bloomfield, said that while the growth in cases was steady, it was not exponential. “The fact that the rate of increase is not exponential is explicitly because we have a level four lockdown in place,” he said.

Just keep on butting that wall. Is Ashley a guy's name in Fernland?

[Hermit]

New Zealand is larger than the UK so no, not a "tiny country" FFS and population is very spread out. They have taken a zero covid stance.
So NZ hammers any outbreak with lock downs. Will be difficult with the new strain to contain.

Canada, a large country has taken the vaccination route and reached 75% fully vaccinated ....

You live in a "tiny country" - what's your excuse for only 62%.

Do you have data to support these claims? Of course not. Go and ride your bike.

Where are yours?

Not that it matters. If your assertion that population size made vaccinating it easier were correct, Canada would have a much lower percentage of vaccinations than the Netherlands. It doesn't. In fact, it's a bit higher.

Country          Population (million)      Fully vaccinated
Netherlands            17.13                          62%
Canada                   37.74                          66%

Data to support these claims (current on 23-08-2021)

What is fully vaccinated? Another subjective term. It depends on the vaccine. Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) only requires one injection and was greatly used for 18-30 age group.

Not subjective. Fully vaccinated means two jabs with Pfiser/AstraZeneca vaccines and one jab with Janssen.

This of course does not match RIVM data

Of course not. RIVM reports the percentage of the Dutch population over the age of 18. The world in data site reports the percentage in terms of total national populations. Apples and oranges.

[pErvinalia]

Well hard headed Fernland keeps on heading the wall:

New Zealand won’t ‘throw in towel’ on Covid-zero strategy despite rising infections

Covid response minister says it would be a waste to stop aiming for elimination after plan was questioned by foreign media

New Zealand’s Covid response minister says the country will not “throw in the towel” with its elimination strategy, as cases continue to rise.

New Zealand announced 63 new cases of Covid-19 on Wednesday, bringing the total to 210 cases. It is the largest single-day jump since the outbreak began last week, and 12 people are hospitalised with the virus.

Some commentators and media overseas have questioned whether the country should continue its elimination strategy, but Covid-19 response minister Chris Hipkins said the country would be staying its course.

“To New Zealanders at home who are saying, ‘is this still the right strategy’, it’s too soon to throw in the towel,” he said. “We’ve come this far, it would be an absolute waste for us to give up on this now. We still want to drive this particular outbreak of Covid-19 out of our community and get back to a sense of normality.”

“Of course we do want to get to the point where lockdowns aren’t the answer to potential outbreaks within the community, but we’re not there yet, and we’re certainly not willing to give up before we get to that point,” Hipkins said.


The director general of health, Ashley Bloomfield, said that while the growth in cases was steady, it was not exponential. “The fact that the rate of increase is not exponential is explicitly because we have a level four lockdown in place,” he said.

Just keep on butting that wall. Is Ashley a guy's name in Fernland?

Is Fernland a country's name in Holland?

[Hermit]

Is Ashley a guy's name in Fernland?

Not just in New Zealand.

Ashley (name)

Ashley is traditionally a male given name which was originally an Old English surname. It is derived from the Old English (Anglo-Saxon) words æsc (ash) and lēah and translates to "Dweller near the ash tree meadow".

The feminine form of Ashley is Ashleigh with Ashley remaining traditionally male.

Ashley is originally a boys' name in England, France and Germany. It was first recorded as a male given name in the 16th century and remained only male until around 350 years later. It was popularized by Anthony Ashley Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury 1621–1683 (also known as Lord Ashley). Uses of the boys' name in popular culture are Ashley Wilkes from 1939's Gone with the Wind and Ash Williams (Ashley Williams) from the 1981 film The Evil Dead.

Ashley in the United Kingdom remains predominantly male, ranking at #40 in 1996 for boys and staying within the top 100–300 male names given each year. Although Ashley was briefley used for British females, it dropped off the top U.K. female name charts in 2011.

In the 1960s Americans started using the male spelling of Ashley for females as well as males. In the 1980s the name had a rise in popularity attributed to the female soap opera character Ashley Abbott who emerged on the still-running TV series The Young and the Restless in 1982. The feminine form Ashleigh is commonly used alongside the masculine form of Ashley in America.

[Brian Peacock]

Apparently keeping a country virtually covid-free during a raging global epidemic is the same as 'banging your head against a wall'.

[Scot Dutchy]

Apparently keeping a country virtually covid-free during a raging global epidemic is the same as 'banging your head against a wall'.

FFS Brian. Keeping on a policy that is failing and refusing to acknowledge it is banging your head against a wall. Fernland should be totally vaccinated but they love their isolation on their earth-quake prone islands.

[Scot Dutchy]

Is Ashley a guy's name in Fernland?

Not just in New Zealand.

Ashley (name)

Ashley is traditionally a male given name which was originally an Old English surname. It is derived from the Old English (Anglo-Saxon) words æsc (ash) and lēah and translates to "Dweller near the ash tree meadow".

The feminine form of Ashley is Ashleigh with Ashley remaining traditionally male.

Ashley is originally a boys' name in England, France and Germany. It was first recorded as a male given name in the 16th century and remained only male until around 350 years later. It was popularized by Anthony Ashley Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury 1621–1683 (also known as Lord Ashley). Uses of the boys' name in popular culture are Ashley Wilkes from 1939's Gone with the Wind and Ash Williams (Ashley Williams) from the 1981 film The Evil Dead.

Ashley in the United Kingdom remains predominantly male, ranking at #40 in 1996 for boys and staying within the top 100–300 male names given each year. Although Ashley was briefley used for British females, it dropped off the top U.K. female name charts in 2011.

In the 1960s Americans started using the male spelling of Ashley for females as well as males. In the 1980s the name had a rise in popularity attributed to the female soap opera character Ashley Abbott who emerged on the still-running TV series The Young and the Restless in 1982. The feminine form Ashleigh is commonly used alongside the masculine form of Ashley in America.

Who cares?

[NineBerry]

[Scot Dutchy]

Of course not. RIVM reports the percentage of the Dutch population over the age of 18. The world in data site reports the percentage in terms of total national populations. Apples and oranges.

Where does it state that? The RIVM approach is logical.

[Scot Dutchy]

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Another subjective chart. What is a Covid death? It is nonsense

[Hermit]

Is Ashley a guy's name in Fernland?

Not just in New Zealand.

Ashley (name)

Ashley is traditionally a male given name which was originally an Old English surname. It is derived from the Old English (Anglo-Saxon) words æsc (ash) and lēah and translates to "Dweller near the ash tree meadow".

The feminine form of Ashley is Ashleigh with Ashley remaining traditionally male.

Ashley is originally a boys' name in England, France and Germany. It was first recorded as a male given name in the 16th century and remained only male until around 350 years later. It was popularized by Anthony Ashley Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury 1621–1683 (also known as Lord Ashley). Uses of the boys' name in popular culture are Ashley Wilkes from 1939's Gone with the Wind and Ash Williams (Ashley Williams) from the 1981 film The Evil Dead.

Ashley in the United Kingdom remains predominantly male, ranking at #40 in 1996 for boys and staying within the top 100–300 male names given each year. Although Ashley was briefley used for British females, it dropped off the top U.K. female name charts in 2011.

In the 1960s Americans started using the male spelling of Ashley for females as well as males. In the 1980s the name had a rise in popularity attributed to the female soap opera character Ashley Abbott who emerged on the still-running TV series The Young and the Restless in 1982. The feminine form Ashleigh is commonly used alongside the masculine form of Ashley in America.

Who cares?

You cared enough to ask. I cared enough to enlighten you.

[Scot Dutchy]

Thanks Hermit. Seldom appears here. We have a few old Friesian male names that are girl names in the English pronunciation.

[Hermit]

Of course not. RIVM reports the percentage of the Dutch population over the age of 18. The world in data site reports the percentage in terms of total national populations. Apples and oranges.

Where does it state that?

Since you are at a loss as to work it out, let me explain. Your link states:

...more than 10.1 million were second vaccinations.

So, at least 10.1 million of the Netherland's total population has been fully vaccinated. That's 59%. If you add a few 100,000 Janssen doses you might get to 62 or 63% at most, which is nowhere near the 75.7% mark. Not that RIVM itself claims that figure to be a percentage of the total Dutch population anyway. It explicitly says 75.7% of the Dutch population over the age of 18 is fully vaccinated.

By the way, RIVM uses the expression "fully vaccinated". Looks like it does not accept your assertion that "fully vaccinated" is subjective.

[Hermit]

Thanks Hermit. Seldom appears here. We have a few old Friesian male names that are girl names in the English pronunciation.

Someone wrote a song about a boy who was given a girl's name, which Johnny Cash turned into a hit. The name caused the boy constant, lifelong trouble. So the song goes anyway. I doubt this sort of thing happened to anyone in the real world. More typically, some never-wrong will occasionally remark on how odd it is when a male has a name he mistakenly regards one properly belonging to females.