Global Climate Change Science News

[macdoc]

Once more cheesy misses the point. Nothing new there.

[Hermit]

A major part of the problem here is thinking about this national terms rather than as a global matter. The whole house is on fire now, and yet we distract ourselves from the flames by arguing over who's got the best plan to put out the fire in their corner of the property and when they're going to get round to doing it, or we say that we're not going to even try to put our fires out downstairs until we can be sure that the people upstairs are going to make an effort too. It's ridiculous. If we don't act now we all burn. It really is that simple.

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight. The problem with him is that his argument is polluted with Dutch nationalism and some other weird opinions, making discussions with him akin to interacting with some iteration of Jabberwacky.

[Scot Dutchy]

Once more cheesy misses the point. Nothing new there.

Stop talking about yourself Mr Ego.

[Scot Dutchy]

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight.

When has Ozland ever pulled its weight? A great country for digging itself up and selling off its natural resources.

[Hermit]

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight.

When has Ozland ever pulled its weight?

Never.

A great country for digging itself up and selling off its natural resources.

Correct. That is because it went from being a colony governed by the British to being governed by economic colonists. As I have mentioned a short time ago, foreign interests are running Australia's economy in general and its mining industry in particular. As an example I pointed out to you that 87% of coal mines in Australia are overseas owned, so it comes as no surprise that 77% of coal dug out in Australia is exported to other countries.

The mining industry is not the only branch of the Australian economy that is largely owned and controlled by overseas corporations, but that is another story.

[pErvinalia]

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight.

When has Ozland ever pulled its weight? A great country for digging itself up and selling off its natural resources.

Don't act as if the Dutch wouldn't be digging their land up if they had enough and it was full of minerals like ours.

[Brian Peacock]

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight.

When has Ozland ever pulled its weight? A great country for digging itself up and selling off its natural resources.

This is a misconception. In a trans-national economic environment one cannot point to this-or-that nation in this way. As Hermit pointed out Australian coal is owned an managed globally not nationally, and there's little chance of Ozzie coal being taken into public ownership. Climate distractors like to point the finger of blame at Australia or China for example, but they're less inclined to point the finger at those actually investing in these fossil fuel economies - not least because those financial interests are probably paying them to disrupt the conversation. The answer of course is to halt investment in the sector and the corporate welfare payments for the fossil fuel industry taken from the public purse which drive that investment, and to put that money to work solving the problem.

[BarnettNewman]

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight.

When has Ozland ever pulled its weight? A great country for digging itself up and selling off its natural resources.

Don't act as if the Dutch wouldn't be digging their land up if they had enough and it was full of minerals like ours.

No they’re quite happy doing that elsewhere.


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[Cunt]

A former criminal justice professor at Sonoma State University in California has been charged with intentionally starting a wildfire in Northern California, close to the state’s massive and ongoing Dixie Fire.

Bet the Climate ChangeTM made them do it.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, all wild fires are arson, eh?

[Scot Dutchy]

One valid observation Scotty is making is that all nations need to participate in fighting the fire, and Australia is not pulling its weight.

When has Ozland ever pulled its weight? A great country for digging itself up and selling off its natural resources.

This is a misconception. In a trans-national economic environment one cannot point to this-or-that nation in this way. As Hermit pointed out Australian coal is owned an managed globally not nationally, and there's little chance of Ozzie coal being taken into public ownership. Climate distractors like to point the finger of blame at Australia or China for example, but they're less inclined to point the finger at those actually investing in these fossil fuel economies - not least because those financial interests are probably paying them to disrupt the conversation. The answer of course is to halt investment in the sector and the corporate welfare payments for the fossil fuel industry taken from the public purse which drive that investment, and to put that money to work solving the problem.

Whose fault was it that it fell into international hands? Greedy Ozzies no doubt. Any excuse is better than none. So a country cant control what is going on within its own borders? What is government for? Who is doing the digging?
It is purely Ozland's fault. They sold it and they can take it back. Too many backhanders and brown envelopes.

[Cunt]

Yeah, all wild fires are arson, eh?

That's a weird leap.

All wild fires are the result of accumulation of fuel.

[JimC]

Yeah, all wild fires are arson, eh?

That's a weird leap.

All wild fires are the result of accumulation of fuel.

That is the usual reply of climate change deniers - it's all the fault of poor forestry management...

The science is in, Cunt - the wildfires currently blazing in North America, Europe and now North Africa owe their increased severity and frequency directly, unequivocally to human-induced global warming.

[Scot Dutchy]

Hey Cunt where do the high temperatures come from? Bad temperature management? The highest temperature in Europe was measured in Sicily 48C. The Sicilians must be terrible temperature managers.

[Cunt]

I'm not denying climate change, just pointing out that the wildfires will happen ONLY when there is fuel. It's about the only thing simple enough to control (say, by backburning)

In other climate science news, a running friend was on the trail, and stopped to chat with my sweetheart and I. He is about to head to Inuvik to do a week or so of work, on generating some of that delicious data your climate scientists love so much. I met him when he was student-ing. He has since gone on to get more educated, then a government job, and now a baby girl, who is bound to be even smarter than her parents.

I guess that isn't global news, but you might be happy to know that a young scientist/field-worker is braving the traditional hazards of the far north, to gather some teeny little spec of data that you likely won't ever notice in the IPCC stuff.

And raising a family here, where the action is.