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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by rainbow » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:38 pm

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There was what's known as chaos. I think caught up in the criminal activity were a bunch of idiots.

I listened to an interview with the guy who says he started it. He sure didn't feel in control.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:58 pm

It wasn't Tronald.

Jones said after he started it, he didn't feel in control.

Of course, with it being such an important event to the Dems, I'm sure everyone listened to the interview with the guy who started it, right?
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:03 am

Cunt wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:09 pm
There was what's known as chaos. I think caught up in the criminal activity were a bunch of idiots.

I listened to an interview with the guy who says he started it. He sure didn't feel in control.
lol. What happened to 'a riot is a riot is a riot'?
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Post by Cunt » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:18 am

Yes, it was. That's why he felt he was not in control.

Or that's my take. It 'got away from him', as they say.

There may be responsible people involved in a riot, but the crowd can sweep up the other kind, too.

It's why, in Canada, I suggest that if you hear a mountie read 'The Riot Act', you should flee immediately, or lay down and look as harmless as possible.

They invoke the Queen, and do so as part of their process of stopping it. The next steps aren't as clear, but all dangerous.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 am

I think you need to spend some time in the real world.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Seabass » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:26 am

Cunt wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:18 am
Yes, it was. That's why he felt he was not in control.

Or that's my take. It 'got away from him', as they say.

There may be responsible people involved in a riot, but the crowd can sweep up the other kind, too.

It's why, in Canada, I suggest that if you hear a mountie read 'The Riot Act', you should flee immediately, or lay down and look as harmless as possible.

They invoke the Queen, and do so as part of their process of stopping it. The next steps aren't as clear, but all dangerous.
You have SO much sympathy and understanding for the white fascists who tried to overthrow the government because their white-nationalist president lost the election.

And you have ZERO sympathy or understanding for the racially diverse group of protesters who took to the streets to protest the frequent wanton murder of black people by cops.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:07 am

Cunt wrote:It wasn't Tronald.

Jones said after he started it, he didn't feel in control.

Of course, with it being such an important event to the Dems, I'm sure everyone listened to the interview with the guy who started it, right?
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:15 am

It isn't important. Just the guy who started the Jan 6 riot. There were MANY riots.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:41 am

The guy who claims to have started it. There are a number of people who make that claim, including the inveterate dipshit Ali 'Alexander.' Accepting the claims of a professional fabulist will tend to make one look foolish.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:57 am

Those who cheer on the Republican Party in the US might consider who they're allying themselves with. In particular those fellow travellers who claim to support freedom and secular values.

'Trump's army of God: Doug Mastriano and the Christian nationalist attack on democracy'
The hard right in all its manifestations (cultural, religious, militarist, etc.) has always held that liberalism — if not democracy itself — is illegitimate. What's new about 4GW [fourth generation warfare] is that it provided the right a shared model of how to systematically delegitimize an opponent. Although 4GW theory's claims of historical accuracy have been severely criticized, it works well as an organizing mythology for its proponents.

In brief, 4GW theory holds that the three prior "generations" of modern warfare involved massed manpower, massed firepower and non-linear maneuver, but we have now reached a new phase: "4GW expands warfare beyond the physical level to include the mental and moral dimensions," [retired intelligence analyst James] Scaminaci explained. "At the highest level of combat — moral conflict — the central objective is to undermine the legitimacy of one's opponent and induce a population to transfer their loyalty from their government to the insurgent." In other words, 4GW normalizes the concept that political opponents are enemy combatants, building on generations of religious conservatives demonizing liberals as evil or demonic.

This mentality and its fruits — if not the explicit theory itself — now informs Trump and his allies' relentless claims that the 2020 election was stolen, along with the GOP's ongoing efforts to make it easier for them to steal the next one. When legitimate office holders use their powers illegitimately to change the system, simultaneously claiming that they're the ones doing everything correctly, that's 4GW at work. It's also the logic behind the "constitutional sheriffs" movement noted above, as well as the state legislatures that tried to interfere with the 2020 election and are now trying to rig all future ones. The same applies to the "Oath Keepers," with their selective list of which oaths they will keep and their assumption of a unilateral right to interpret their meaning and act accordingly.

Christian nationalism helps support all of this, deploying its warped and selective version of Christian faith to attack all other Americans, not to mention other Christians. While pretending to represent the ultimate in Christian belief and American patriotism, it is really a fundamental attack on the core values of both.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:50 am

...the central objective is to undermine the legitimacy of one's opponent and induce a population to transfer their loyalty from their government to the insurgent....
If one was dealing with an authoritarian government treating their people like shit (perhaps like North Korea), with no way to achieve change via the ballot box, such a position may have some ethical standing.

For Trumpists to apply it to undermining a legitimately elected government is to fully embrace treason.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:39 am

They've clearly got daddy issues.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:57 pm

Washington(CNN) Colorado Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert, known for her outspoken right-wing views, tweeted last week: "The same liberals that legalized knowingly spreading HIV are now pushing Americans to take COVID tests or show proof of vaccination to enter restaurants. No. We're not playing your games."

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:07 pm

She's a tabloid pusher Tero.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:28 pm

Every time you quote her Tero a democrat voter loses their health insurance.
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