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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:41 am

Trump was more popular at the end of his presidency, than at the beginning.

I'm not trying to suggest he won, I'm suggesting that nearly half the country don't agree that he was a worse choice than Biden.

Of course, in a race between doddering old men, no-one should expect any impressive performance...
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:40 am

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The popular vote is fun for the corporate media to taunt the gullible with, but it has no bearing on the election in the US.
The fact that someone can become president while losing the popular vote shows the deep flaws in "democracy" in the US. Because of a historical legacy of their federal system, now largely irrelevant, rural voters can dominate the Senate, and conservative states can cynically distort voting systems (not just their own, but the nation's as a whole) to avoid a just, universal voting franchise, often for barely hidden racist motives.

A deep sickness in an otherwise modern polity.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:41 am

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:41 am
Trump was more popular at the end of his presidency, than at the beginning.

I'm not trying to suggest he won, I'm suggesting that nearly half the country don't agree that he was a worse choice than Biden.

Of course, in a race between doddering old men, no-one should expect any impressive performance...
Near enough ain't good enough...
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:55 am

I think it's time Cunt got over Trump. He lost.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Hermit » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:25 am

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:41 am
Trump was more popular at the end of his presidency, than at the beginning.
No, he was not. Trump was more popular in the first six weeks of his presidency, than in the last six weeks.

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I anticipate you're about to define 'beginning' and 'end' to make it fit your assertion. It'll become 'first year' and 'last year', or something like that.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:03 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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I think it's time Cunt got over Trump. He lost.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:52 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:25 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:41 am
Trump was more popular at the end of his presidency, than at the beginning.
No, he was not. Trump was more popular in the first six weeks of his presidency, than in the last six weeks.

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I anticipate you're about to define 'beginning' and 'end' to make it fit your assertion. It'll become 'first year' and 'last year', or something like that.
No, of course not. You are always right, with charts and graphics and everything.

I just heard from the alt right that he got more votes in 2020, than in 2016, but I should have checked with you first.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:38 pm

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I just heard from the alt right that he got more votes in 2020, than in 2016...
I acknowledged the fact that Trump received more votes in 2020 than in 2016 here, here and here. In terms of raw numbers it is almost completely meaningless because 21,714,127 more voters went to the polls in 2020 than in 2016. Trump received 11,231,326 of the difference* and Biden received 15,415,410 of the increased number of voters. That's why Trump lost the popular vote by 2.86 million votes in 2016 and 7.05 million votes in 2020.

Because 21.6 million more voters went to the polls in 2020 than in 2016, a more accurate assessment of how the candidates fared is to say that Trump's vote increased by 0.77 percentage points over his 2016 result and Biden's by 3.13.

*The difference was also increased by the collapse of the Greens/Libertarians/Independent candidates votes. Their sum total shrank by 4.9 million from 7.8 to 2.9 million.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:44 pm

Yes, I understand your view of Trump and his supporters.

It's apparent in your fact-checks. It's even more apparent in the misstatements you don't fact-check.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:00 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:44 pm
Yes, I understand your view of Trump and his supporters.

It's apparent in your fact-checks. It's even more apparent in the misstatements you don't fact-check.
There are no misstatements in my posts. If you see any, quote them.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Joe » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:37 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:52 pm
Hermit wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:25 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:41 am
Trump was more popular at the end of his presidency, than at the beginning.
No, he was not. Trump was more popular in the first six weeks of his presidency, than in the last six weeks.

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I anticipate you're about to define 'beginning' and 'end' to make it fit your assertion. It'll become 'first year' and 'last year', or something like that.
No, of course not. You are always right, with charts and graphics and everything.

I just heard from the alt right that he got more votes in 2020, than in 2016, but I should have checked with you first.
Our system is winner take all. I suppose Trump can take solace in being number 2, but I wouldn't make too much of it.

Joe Biden got more votes than any candidate for any office in the history of the United States. Pretty good for an old guy. :{D
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:22 pm

He lost to "Sleepy" Joe. --better than "serenity now" really... :biggrin:
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Post by Joe » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:50 pm

:lol:
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:35 pm

The shit-stain McConnell isn't going to change his spots.

'"Endless Cycle of Republican Abuse of Power": Legal Experts Blast McConnell for Planning to Block a Biden SCOTUS Pick'
U.S. Senate Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell kicked off the week by telling right wing radio host Hugh Hewitt that he is planning to block any U.S. Supreme Court nominee President Joe Biden makes if Republicans win back the Senate next year.

“Let me ask you, if you regain the majority in 2022 for the Republicans, and there’s a very good chance of that happening,” Hewitt posited, “would the rule that you applied in 2016 to the Scalia vacancy apply in 2024 to any vacancy that occurred then?”

McConnell responded by once again invoking happenstance as precedence.

“Well, I think in the middle of a presidential election, if you have a Senate of the opposite party of the president, you have to go back to the 1880s to find the last time a vacancy was filled,” he said, not mentioning that none were actually blocked. “So I think it’s highly unlikely. In fact, no, I don’t think either party if it controlled, if it were different from the president, would confirm a Supreme Court nominee in the middle of an election. What was different in 2020 was we were of the same party as the president.”

“And that’s why we went ahead with it,” McConnell added.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:16 pm

His arrogance is to assume that Republicans will always be there to limit a Democrat administration. His folly is to believe that any precedent he has set is binding for all time and will only ever be wielded to favour Republicans. Democrat activists are already working hard to get the vote out for the mid-terms. The Republicans are still prevaricating about how much Trump they might need in the mix before they can start nominating and campaigning.
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