Hermit wrote: ↑Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:53 amIt's not just by obedience to laws you gain credit for or transgressions thereof you lose it. Social credit is all-encompassing. Reporters who write articles critical of the administration find privileges withdrawn. (Granted, you don't need nationwide face recognition or an automatically updated database for that, but it makes the process faster and leaves fewer holes in the surveillance system.) So will shoppers who buy undesirably large amounts of alcohol, while joining a gym might gain you a few points. Face recognition technology is about to make 1984 come true with a thoroughness and nightmarishness not even Orwell could possibly have foreseen.Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:05 pmThose who violate laws will find life more difficult. How is this different than the extensive background checks already in place here?
The next step will be microchip implants with audio and video capabilities. Citizens will be required to attend regular battery replacement sessions whenever they get the "low charge" warning. The step after that will be microchip implants with audio and video capabilities that can read the thoughts of the implantee. Finally comes the day societies will benefit from the introduction of microchip implants with audio and video capabilities that can read the thoughts of the implantee and trigger a small but effective explosive charge in the back of the neck that disconnects the brain from the rest of the body when an illegal thought is detected. I know this sounds absurd right now...
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Looking around a bit more I found a post in which I riffed on the theme once more two years later.
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I still say Mark comes off a bit cocky.
Did you happen to find that 'novid' app and it's mathsy stuff interesting?
I think it goes like this...
Cooperating health authority gives the you, the 'novid' user, a code when you are diagnosed positive. You input that into the app, (protecting your privacy and verifying quality of data to novid)
Instead of the usual contact tracing app method, where it tells you to isolate if you were exposed, it tells you if more of your contacts are in contact with the virus. The thing also uses bluetooth somehow, and of course health authority data.
Ever hear about the movie '6 degrees of separation'? It's like that but with virus contact, and your app gives you info that you can use to reduce your changes of exposure. (stay home, don't attend that club etc.)
Dude said it's a new way to fight disease. I think of it as a new overlay/augmented reality, which shows virus and probability of virus based on contact.
Erdos would be proud.
Did you happen to find that 'novid' app and it's mathsy stuff interesting?
I think it goes like this...
Cooperating health authority gives the you, the 'novid' user, a code when you are diagnosed positive. You input that into the app, (protecting your privacy and verifying quality of data to novid)
Instead of the usual contact tracing app method, where it tells you to isolate if you were exposed, it tells you if more of your contacts are in contact with the virus. The thing also uses bluetooth somehow, and of course health authority data.
Ever hear about the movie '6 degrees of separation'? It's like that but with virus contact, and your app gives you info that you can use to reduce your changes of exposure. (stay home, don't attend that club etc.)
Dude said it's a new way to fight disease. I think of it as a new overlay/augmented reality, which shows virus and probability of virus based on contact.
Erdos would be proud.
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What other terrible things can we imagine about the future, and what's the best way to make people believe that the Left are trying to make them happen?Cunt wrote:How long, JimC? They start sniffing around, I give them on the order of 10 years.
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https://virological.org/t/the-proximal- ... -cov-2/398
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
The genomic features described here may explain in part the infectiousness and transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 in humans. Although the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus, it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here. However, since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, in related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.
More scientific data could swing the balance of evidence to favor one hypothesis over another. Obtaining related viral sequences from animal sources would be the most definitive way of revealing viral origins. For example, a future observation of an intermediate or fully formed polybasic cleavage site in a SARS-CoV-2-like virus from animals would lend even further support to the natural-selection hypotheses. It would also be helpful to obtain more genetic and functional data about SARS-CoV-2, including animal studies. The identification of a potential intermediate host of SARS-CoV-2, as well as sequencing of the virus from very early cases, would similarly be highly informative. Irrespective of the exact mechanisms by which SARS-CoV-2 originated via natural selection, the ongoing surveillance of pneumonia in humans and other animals is clearly of utmost importance.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
The genomic features described here may explain in part the infectiousness and transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 in humans. Although the evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not a purposefully manipulated virus, it is currently impossible to prove or disprove the other theories of its origin described here. However, since we observed all notable SARS-CoV-2 features, including the optimized RBD and polybasic cleavage site, in related coronaviruses in nature, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.
More scientific data could swing the balance of evidence to favor one hypothesis over another. Obtaining related viral sequences from animal sources would be the most definitive way of revealing viral origins. For example, a future observation of an intermediate or fully formed polybasic cleavage site in a SARS-CoV-2-like virus from animals would lend even further support to the natural-selection hypotheses. It would also be helpful to obtain more genetic and functional data about SARS-CoV-2, including animal studies. The identification of a potential intermediate host of SARS-CoV-2, as well as sequencing of the virus from very early cases, would similarly be highly informative. Irrespective of the exact mechanisms by which SARS-CoV-2 originated via natural selection, the ongoing surveillance of pneumonia in humans and other animals is clearly of utmost importance.
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The story you linked to yesterday said the Trump investigation was into a bioweapons connection to the Wuhan lab, but the story in my newspaper this morning says the new effort is looking at both lab leak and zoonotic hypotheses. Good news though, the lab leak hypothesis was firmly rejected by the Chinese government.Cunt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:45 amLots of people were dismissive of it too early. Obviously not anyone important, and it's not like it matters a lot. Mere semantics.
I consider it all pretty unreliable. Especially in the first day or two as a story 'breaks'
Speaking of which, did Infallible Fauci just flip-flop again, this time on whether he remembered funding gain of function research in Wuhan?
And I'm seeing stories that Biden stopped the Trump investigation into the origins in Chyna, while Biden is being reported as stepping up the investigation into the origins in China.
Now we know who was calling it a conspiracy theory.China has rejected the laboratory theory.
"Smear campaigns and blame shifting are making a comeback, and the conspiracy theory of 'lab leak' is resurfacing," its embassy in the US said in a statement on Thursday.

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Well, China, John Cena, and anyone else (the NBA) who bows to them, formally or otherwise.
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I doubt the NBA or this Cena guy have said anything about the lab leak hypothesis, however much they kowtowed to the Chinese government. 

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No, but you can be confident that anyone kowtowing to their government will avoid referring to Taiwan as a country.
Similarly, you can be confident that Universal (if THAT is who currently owns Cena) is the one kowtowing. That actor is just doing what he does - talking for money.
I still think that if the lab leak hypothesis turns out to be true, whether accident or deliberate release, it stains the US a lot more than the CCP.
Because I think everyone expects 'better' of the US.
Similarly, you can be confident that Universal (if THAT is who currently owns Cena) is the one kowtowing. That actor is just doing what he does - talking for money.
I still think that if the lab leak hypothesis turns out to be true, whether accident or deliberate release, it stains the US a lot more than the CCP.
Because I think everyone expects 'better' of the US.
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lol
Most parsimonious theory yet presented.
Most parsimonious theory yet presented.
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...so no.
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Not my problem that you don't understand science and logic.Cunt wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:20 pmMaybe listen to Heying (an evolutionary biologist) and see if you can understand more.
You aren't even making the smallest bit of sense so far.
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