"Alt-right" Still Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

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Post by Joe » Tue May 25, 2021 1:49 am

Hermit wrote:
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Ditto for 'armed insurrectionists'

I think they have only been charged with trespass so far, and as to 'arms'...they have seized a bunch, surely.

I just can't find out anywhere just how many. Heck, I can't find a single 'arm'...
A quick search for armed insurrectionists in connection with the storming of the Capitol on the 6th of January this year almost drew a blank. You are this forum's only member who has created that strawman.
It's highly unlikely our member from Yellowknife created that strawman on his own.
Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons

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Conservative social media posts misleadingly claim the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was not an “armed” insurrection, citing FBI testimony that no guns were seized from suspects that day. But 23 people have been charged with having deadly or dangerous weapons during the assault — including a loaded handgun found on a man arrested on Capitol grounds.

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On March 3, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and Senate Committee on Rules and Administration held a joint hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill. The assault left five people dead and scores injured, including at least 138 Capitol and Metropolitan Police Department officers.

During the hearing, Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin asked Jill Sanborn, assistant director of the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division, “How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?”

“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” Sanborn said. “But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol Police.”

Social media posts latched on to the answer to misleadingly purport that the protesters were not armed.
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But a wide array of lethal weapons — including a firearm — were found on protesters at the Capitol.

The Metropolitan Police Department reported its officers, while trying to clear the Capitol grounds about 7 p.m. on Jan. 6, arrested and charged a 33-year-old Maryland man with the federal offense of carrying a fully loaded 9mm semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds. The suspect, Christopher Michael Alberts, also was carrying a second magazine.

Social media posts claiming that protesters were not armed also do not address the issue of other weapons used by assailants at the Capitol — or the seizure of guns from supporters before and after the riot.

In legal terms, “armed” means being in possession of any weapon, not just a firearm. While there are laws that specifically address firearms, weapons can include virtually any object used to threaten or cause harm.

According to a database compiled by NPR, of the people charged with violent offenses, including assault on police officers, 15 were armed with deadly or dangerous weapons during the riot at the Capitol.

Eight others facing civil disorder or property destruction charges also were charged with possessing weapons, according to the database.

Those weapons included baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole.

Thomas Webster, a retired New York Police Department officer, was charged with attacking a Metropolitan Police Department officer with a metal flagpole. The federal complaint says he struck at the officer “with the flagpole numerous times.”

Before and after the storming of the Capitol, NBC News reported, police seized a dozen firearms, including an assault rifle, and thousands of rounds of ammunition from seven people attending the rally for President Donald Trump in Washington, D.C. Other weapons included a crossbow, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails.
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Asha Rangappa, an attorney and former FBI agent, told us in an email that she did “not see the logic” in the claim that firearms had to be present for the Capitol riot to have been deemed an armed insurrection.

She also said we will never know how many rioters might have been armed with guns on Jan. 6, because only some were arrested that day.

“Not only was law enforcement completely overwhelmed (and being assaulted), from what I saw people were basically allowed to leave unimpeded,” said Rangappa, a senior lecturer at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs. “So those arrested … are hardly representative of everyone who was there that day.”
And since our friend doesn't trust fact checkers, here's visual evidence that at least one invader was armed with a deadly weapon.

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Post by Hermit » Tue May 25, 2021 2:32 am

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To me, it looks like a few trespass charges...
No great shakes then. Just a couple of visitors trying to get into the Capitol, eager to help the winner by a margin of 7 million and and 74 electoral college votes.

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In their enthusiasm to protect the democratic process they inadvertently broke a window pane.



Of course the lying, biased main stream media misrepresented their intentions. Those liars won't get away with it, for our member from Yellowknife untiringly keeps setting the record straight.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 25, 2021 3:38 am

Cunt wrote:No guns, at the scariest attack A.O.C. has ever had to lie about facing. :)

To me, it looks like a few trespass charges, and a lot of media hype. At least so far.
Yeah storming the seat of government is a regular occurrence in western democracies.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 25, 2021 9:08 am

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Nonsense. Most of the insurrectionists on the 6th had arms, and legs.
Yabbut were they loaded?
Of course. Loaded with a burning sense of injustice and righteous outrage. But no guns - and as we know only guns are capable of killing people, and nothing else.

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Post by Svartalf » Wed May 26, 2021 2:44 pm

That guy must be a true genius, where do I find an English or French translation of the Gospel according to Jesus?
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Post by JimC » Wed May 26, 2021 9:17 pm

He wasn't born in Bethlehem, it was Bumfuck, Ohio...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed May 26, 2021 9:20 pm

I call poe on that one
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 26, 2021 9:27 pm

The pure ignorance is almost impossible to comprehend. How really thick do you have to be. I mean two short planks does not even come anywhere near. I take it the guy drinks nothing else but moonshine.
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Post by JimC » Wed May 26, 2021 9:30 pm

At least it's not Koolaid, eh Scot... :tea:
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Post by Seabass » Wed May 26, 2021 10:45 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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I call poe on that one
Before the Age Of Trump, I would have thought so too.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 27, 2021 1:09 am

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He wasn't born in Bethlehem, it was Bumfuck, Ohio...
His parents were Rodrigo and Dolores and he was a gardener.
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 27, 2021 1:10 am

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He wasn't born in Bethlehem, it was Bumfuck, Ohio...
Was so born in Bethlehem. Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

Mind you, since its steelworks closed in 1995 it became better known as Bumfuck, Pennsylvania.
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Brian Peacock wrote:
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I call poe on that one
Could be... but you know, trumpanzees might be capable of such depths in stupidity.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu May 27, 2021 7:59 am

I think of a sermon in a megachurch-- 'Brothers and sisters, Jesus Christ is beyond time and space, he transcends all the things of this world. He's in every one of us. [Extended jingoistic cheer-leading for Gawd's own country, the U S of A, the most Christian nation on the face of the Earth] ... Jesus is in our hearts, blessing America, and through us, Jesus is an American!'

I'm a bit rusty, not having written religious nonsense in a while. However, I think that the sentiment I depicted has been preached from any number of pulpits in the preacher-ridden US. The same goes for assigning authorship of the Bible to Jesus. Remember, John 1: 'In the beginning was the Word,' which is Jesus. John goes on to tell us that 'All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.' If anything was made by Jesus, certainly the Bible was.

It doesn't matter that it's a torrent of hogwash, the preacher will spew it and the believers in the pews will take it in with gusto. The post probably is a Poe, but not necessarily. 'Look it up sweaty' might be tipping the hand, though. :lol:

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