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by Scot Dutchy » Tue May 11, 2021 6:45 am
"Wat is het een gezellig boel hier".
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by superuniverse » Tue May 11, 2021 9:15 pm
Why do you care so much what I believe? You want more proof?
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by JimC » Tue May 11, 2021 9:17 pm
Dennis, why do you care so much about what we believe or don't believe?
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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by superuniverse » Wed May 12, 2021 2:43 am
JimC wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:17 pm
Dennis, why do you care so much about what we believe or don't believe?
I care about what is real and true. And you guys are a bunch of liars.
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by JimC » Wed May 12, 2021 3:30 am
If we honestly think that there is no god, and say so, we may, I suppose, be mistaken, but we are not lying.
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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by Hermit » Wed May 12, 2021 7:12 am
JimC wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:30 am
If we honestly think that there is no god, and say so, we may, I suppose, be mistaken, but we are not lying.
Speaking for myself, I don't even think there is no god. It's just that I will believe there is one if convincing, testable and reproducible evidence turns up.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops. - Stephen J. Gould
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by Brian Peacock » Wed May 12, 2021 8:00 am
If God was real and listened to my prayers he would have made it rain champagne already.
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 12, 2021 8:19 am
Once again we end up at the default. Dennis cannot produce any proof of existence and we dont have to prove a negative which does not exist. As they say in polite Dutch: "Flikker op man".
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by superuniverse » Wed May 12, 2021 8:51 pm
"Marcuse’s impact went well beyond the precincts of radical politics. In 1969, Pope Paul VI condemned him by name, blaming Marcuse—along with Sigmund Freud—for promoting the “disgusting and unbridled” manifestations of eroticism and the “animal, barbarous and subhuman degradations” commonly known as the sexual revolution. The hostility that Marcuse aroused was ideologically ecumenical. In Pravda, Soviet journalist Yuri Zhukov denounced him as a “false prophet,” while the apartheid regime in South Africa blocked the importation of all his books."
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by superuniverse » Wed May 12, 2021 9:01 pm
And unlike the rest of the Frankfurt School, Marcuse is crystal clear 99% of the time.
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed May 12, 2021 11:02 pm
Where is the proof? You have none. Whistling in the wind.
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by Hermit » Wed May 12, 2021 11:52 pm
Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:00 am
If God was real and listened to my prayers he would have made it rain champagne already.
In a similar vein
Hermit wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2014 3:29 pm
What would it take for you to believe in God? I thought of a scenario that might work, at least for an interventionist, personal one. A lot of Christians (and not only Christians, come to think of it) believe in the power and efficacy of prayer. Well, it should be possible to empirically test for the existence of their God. Gather, say, 40,000 people suffering from trachoma and divide them into four groups. One will be treated by doctors, one will be prayed for, one will be prayed for and treated by doctors and one will be utterly ignored. The result will be pretty convincing if the prayed for groups fare best. If it doesn't, of course, it proves nothing. Perhaps God was busy having a shit at the time, or maybe he just hates some sinners and gave them trachoma as punishment. Or he might have played his favourite trick: he was testing his followers' faith.
Still, if experiments of the kind I just sketched can be repeated with similarly favourable results for the prayed for groups, it could be said that evidence for a personal, interventionist God has been provided.
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