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Woke in particular is just as cringe-worthy a name as the unlamented attempt for atheists to label themselves "brights"
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Just coming right out and saying it. Really, there's no point in denial--accept the reality and move forward.
'The U.S. never had a shot at herd immunity'
'The U.S. never had a shot at herd immunity'
Herd immunity just ain't happening, folks. Once anti-vaccine rhetoric became normal on the right, the goal of herd immunity to stop the spread of COVID-19 was doomed.
Many folks have been saying it for a few months now, but it appears that the slower-moving medical experts in the federal government are finally admitting it. Despite half of Americans getting the shot, Apoorva Mandavilli of the New York Times writes, "vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever."
This article caused a lot of doom-saying from pandemic addicts on social media, but there's actually good news in this. Dr. Anthony Fauci, Biden's top advisor on the pandemic, explained that federal leaders "stopped using herd immunity in the classic sense," and instead the focus has shifted to "vaccinate enough people, the infections are going to go down." In other words, it's time to stop letting anti-vaccination people hold the rest of hostage, wind down the lockdowns, and shift gears to managing COVID-19 through other strategies.
As Mandavilli explains, there's a lot of reasons that herd immunity is simply unachievable in the current situation, but there is no doubt that "{s}kepticism about the vaccines among many Americans" is playing a major role. She delicately avoids digging in deeper, but anyone who has been paying attention in recent months understands what this means: It's Republicans.
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Sounds like you talked yourself out of inviting her into the Democratic party.Tero wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 12:17 amI looked at Liz Cheney news items and she might as well be forgotten. I don't see anything worthwhile there. Without the Cheney name she would be nobody.Joe wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:38 pmWell, my point was that Bill Clinton and Liz Cheney have significant policy differences on the 2nd Amendment. He signed the Brady bill and the assault weapon ban which are much more in line with Democratic views than Cheney's.
As for taking people's guns, I don't know. Doesn't Seth sleep with his?![]()

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'Brights' was an artificial concoction, whereas 'woke' has a much longer history. Its adoption by mainstream culture lead to it becoming just another snarl word.
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Caitlyn Jenner opposes allowing trans girls to compete in women's sports in California schools. Meanwhile, she uses the women's tees when she's golfing.
'Caitlyn Jenner Called Out For Hypocrisy After Saying Trans Girls Should Be Banned From Sports'
'Caitlyn Jenner Called Out For Hypocrisy After Saying Trans Girls Should Be Banned From Sports'
Like many Republicans Jenner, a transgender woman, believes transgender children and teenage girls shouldn't be allowed to participate in women's athletics, saying "it's a question of fairness."
Of course, that hasn't stopped Jenner, a former Olympian, from competing in women's sports.
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Despite playing golf at a professional level before transitioning, Jenner now uses the women's golf tee, which is closer to the green.
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I still think it's cringe-worthy; it smacks of self-congratulation...L'Emmerdeur wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 am'Brights' was an artificial concoction, whereas 'woke' has a much longer history. Its adoption by mainstream culture lead to it becoming just another snarl word.
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I'm not surprised by this. America really is a dysfunctional society.L'Emmerdeur wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:11 amJust coming right out and saying it. Really, there's no point in denial--accept the reality and move forward.
'The U.S. never had a shot at herd immunity'
Herd immunity just ain't happening, folks. Once anti-vaccine rhetoric became normal on the right, the goal of herd immunity to stop the spread of COVID-19 was doomed.
Many folks have been saying it for a few months now, but it appears that the slower-moving medical experts in the federal government are finally admitting it. Despite half of Americans getting the shot, Apoorva Mandavilli of the New York Times writes, "vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever."
This article caused a lot of doom-saying from pandemic addicts on social media, but there's actually good news in this. Dr. Anthony Fauci, Biden's top advisor on the pandemic, explained that federal leaders "stopped using herd immunity in the classic sense," and instead the focus has shifted to "vaccinate enough people, the infections are going to go down." In other words, it's time to stop letting anti-vaccination people hold the rest of hostage, wind down the lockdowns, and shift gears to managing COVID-19 through other strategies.
As Mandavilli explains, there's a lot of reasons that herd immunity is simply unachievable in the current situation, but there is no doubt that "{s}kepticism about the vaccines among many Americans" is playing a major role. She delicately avoids digging in deeper, but anyone who has been paying attention in recent months understands what this means: It's Republicans.
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I think it's when people started identifying themselves with it.L'Emmerdeur wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 am'Brights' was an artificial concoction, whereas 'woke' has a much longer history. Its adoption by mainstream culture lead to it becoming just another snarl word.
Sounds like a compliment, for someone in a shit situation to say that you are 'woke' to their circumstance.
Sounds like self-aggrandizing dogshit when someone boasts of their own wokeness.
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You can't be anything. Whatever you are somebody will hate it. If you think there's no way anybody could hate x, then just ask Dutchy. He probably hated it before you knew what it was.
The latest fad is a poverty social. Every woman must wear calico,
and every man his old clothes. In addition each is fined 25 cents if
he or she does not have a patch on his or her clothing. If these
parties become a regular thing, says an exchange, won't there be
a good chance for newspaper men to shine?
The Silver State. 1894.
and every man his old clothes. In addition each is fined 25 cents if
he or she does not have a patch on his or her clothing. If these
parties become a regular thing, says an exchange, won't there be
a good chance for newspaper men to shine?
The Silver State. 1894.
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Wake up and smell the coffee!JimC wrote:I still think it's cringe-worthy; it smacks of self-congratulation...L'Emmerdeur wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 2:27 am'Brights' was an artificial concoction, whereas 'woke' has a much longer history. Its adoption by mainstream culture lead to it becoming just another snarl word.
Whatever term people use to identify as and/or with politically, from radical to traditionalist and everything in between, is turned into a snarl word by someone.
There's nothing to stop those layers of meaning changing though - look how 'queer' has be rehabilitated recently, or how 'cripple' or 'nigger' has been reclaimed by the people it was used pejoratively against, or how 'bitch' has been denuded of its potency and embraced by certain people in recent times.
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I still dislike the self-satisfied tone of "woke"...
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"Aware" would be a better word. Or "alert". Be alert. We need more lerts.
"Brights" is abominable for its arrogant self-adulation. It was the starting point for my dislike of Richard Dawkins, which increased when the allegedly anti-monarchist publicly begged for a fucking knighthood.
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Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 6:22 amYou can't be anything. Whatever you are somebody will hate it. If you think there's no way anybody could hate x, then just ask Dutchy. He probably hated it before you knew what it was.

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Made a blog entry featuring woke
https://esapolitics.blogspot.com/2021/0 ... terms.html
https://esapolitics.blogspot.com/2021/0 ... terms.html
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Op ed guy says it's about neocons, not Trump:
She's heir to the throne of the so-called neocon empire, helmed for decades by her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, who remains the Darth Vader (and I mean that with all respect and adulation for my personal lodestar) of conservative politics. If a Republican Party ever reemerges in which being a conservative matters more than being a Trump loyalist, Liz Cheney is likely going to run it. The role of conference chair has been a dead-end for her in this particular Republican cohort. Going out in a blaze of glory -- as may be her leadership fate -- makes sense if you are playing a longer game that might develop into future opportunity.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/opinions ... index.html
She's heir to the throne of the so-called neocon empire, helmed for decades by her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, who remains the Darth Vader (and I mean that with all respect and adulation for my personal lodestar) of conservative politics. If a Republican Party ever reemerges in which being a conservative matters more than being a Trump loyalist, Liz Cheney is likely going to run it. The role of conference chair has been a dead-end for her in this particular Republican cohort. Going out in a blaze of glory -- as may be her leadership fate -- makes sense if you are playing a longer game that might develop into future opportunity.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/opinions ... index.html
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