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Post by Tero » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:05 pm

With the solvent being water, you do want the air bubble to move. So yes, if you syringed it needle down, the air is at the plunger end. You then move the needle up, and tap the syringe till the air is at the top. Then you shoot the air out, losing minimal vaccine as you get near done.

So yes, the water does make a difference. Most of my liquids were not water.

I'm pretty sure some vials have been dropped on the floor by now. They have to be thrown out.

All other vaccines come in single dose vials. Preservative is no longer needed, the mercury compound.
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Post by NineBerry » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:12 pm

No tapping the needle. At least not for the BioNTech vaccine. That would destroy it.

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Post by Tero » Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:06 pm

I did not find more details than this
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https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisat ... irnaty.pdf

The saline is apparently to dissolve or else prepare a suspension of the freeze dried vaccine.
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Post by NineBerry » Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:17 pm

Do not shake the vial. If the vial is shaken, discard the vaccine.
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Post by Tero » Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:31 pm

The video shows inverting of the vial to mix saline in. She also withdraws Pfizer vaccine horizontally, not inverted. She does tap the syringe once.



I used to write processes for scale up, and there were endless words put in on how to transfer things. Especially "rinse forward." I would then give it to the engineer and read his write up so that the transfer was exactly the same as in the lab. Some things on scale up took up to ten times the time it took in the lab. Occasionally I would do a lab run during 8 hours that would really have taken 2 hours if I had done it my style. Based on the plant scale procedure.
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Post by Tero » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:24 pm

23 Norwegian nursing home deaths were just deaths. Not immediately following vaccine or an allergy response.
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Finnish situation with vaccines better than I expected. 280 000 vaccinated. Total deaths 733. Only 30 now in intensive care.
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Post by Tero » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:10 pm

Three vaccines are in use, with the 2 first approved going to those over 70:

AstraZenecan adenovirusvektorirokotetta (going to those who are 17-70) käytetään toistaiseksi vain 18-70-vuotiaiden rokottamiseen. 70-vuotiaiden ja sitä vanhempien rokottamiseen käytetään mRNA-rokotteita (BioNTech-Pfizerin Comirnaty ja Moderna), joiden suojatehosta myös ikääntyneillä on jo tutkimusnäyttöä.

Only people in hospitals working with infected/suspected patients got the vaccine, other healthcare workers not.
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Post by NineBerry » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:55 pm

NAIROBI, Kenya — Tanzania’s president is finally acknowledging that his country has a coronavirus problem after claiming for months that the disease had been defeated by prayer.

Populist President John Magufuli on Sunday urged citizens of the East African country to take precautions and even wear face masks — but only locally made ones. Over the course of the pandemic he has expressed wariness about foreign-made goods, including COVID-19 vaccines.

The president’s comments came days after the country of some 60 million people mourned the death of one of its highest-profile politicians, the vice president of the semi-autonomous island region of Zanzibar, whose political party had earlier said he had COVID-19. The president’s chief secretary also died in recent days, though the cause was not revealed.

Magufuli, speaking at the chief secretary’s funeral in a nationally televised broadcast on Friday, urged the nation to participate in three days of prayer for unspecified “respiratory” illnesses that had become a challenge in the country.

Tanzania has not updated its number of coronavirus infections since April as the president has insisted COVID-19 had been defeated. Tanzania’s official number of coronavirus infections remains at just 509, but residents report that many people have become ill with breathing difficulties and hospitals have seen a rise in patients for “pneumonia.”

The director-general of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has added his voice to growing calls for Tanzania to acknowledge COVID-19 for the good of its citizens, neighboring countries, and the world, especially after a number of countries reported that visitors arriving from Tanzania tested positive for the virus.

Tedros in a statement on Saturday called Tanzania’s situation “very concerning” and urged Magufuli’s government to take “robust action.” Others recently expressing concern include the United States and the local Catholic church.



https://time.com/5941421/tanzania-covid-19-pandemic/

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Post by JimC » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 am

Weird, dangerous, delusional and very conservative christian churches have got a grip of many parts of Africa. Another case of the damage done by the poison of religion.
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Post by rainbow » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:22 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 am
Weird, dangerous, delusional and very conservative christian churches have got a grip of many parts of Africa America. Another case of the damage done by the poison of religion.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:45 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 am
Weird, dangerous, delusional and very conservative christian churches have got a grip of many parts of Africa. Another case of the damage done by the poison of religion.
Just different sides of oppression. One keeps them stupid and one keeps them poor. The same round the world just in different degrees.
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JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 am
Weird, dangerous, delusional and very conservative christian churches have got a grip of many parts of Africa. Another case of the damage done by the poison of religion.
Problem is that the reasonable brands are not involved in the massive missionary effort that led to this
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Post by Tero » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:19 pm

People do not want to pay 4 dollars for a mask you could easily wear for a week or two. It has way more protection than the surgical masks:
Can’t Find an N95 Mask? This Company Has 30 Million That It Can’t Sell.
Health workers are still being forced to ration protective masks, but small U.S. manufacturers can’t find buyers, and some are in a danger of going under.

A year into the pandemic, the disposable, virus-filtering N95 mask remains a coveted piece of protective gear. Continuing shortages have forced doctors and nurses to reuse their N95s, and ordinary Americans have scoured the internet — mostly in vain — to get them.

But Luis Arguello Jr. has plenty of N95s for sale — 30 million of them, in fact, which his family-run business, DemeTech, manufactured in its factories in Miami. He simply can’t find buyers.

After the pandemic exposed a huge need for protective equipment, and China closed its inventory to the world, DemeTech, a medical suture maker, dived into the mask business. The company invested tens of millions of dollars in new machinery and then navigated a nine-month federal approval process that allows the masks to be marketed.

But demand is so slack that Mr. Arguello is preparing to lay off
some of the 1,300 workers he had hired to ramp up production.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:16 pm

Spending on a box of masks is getting old. It probably would've been cheaper just to succumb to the crazy completely and walk around in a space suit.

Now they're talking about wearing them into 2022 and beyond...
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