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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am


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Brian Peacock wrote:
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Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:41 am

Israel
But Maccabi Healthcare Services reported Thursday that out of 416,900 people it had vaccinated, only 254 had gotten Covid-19 a week after their second dose. What’s more, all of the cases were mild. Comparing these rates to unvaccinated people, the researchers estimated that the vaccine has an effectiveness of 91 percent.

The results are all the more striking, experts said, because Israel is contending with a worrisome new variant of the coronavirus. The variant B.1.1.7 now accounts for up to 80 percent of the samples tested in Israel.

First identified in Britain in December, the variant has spread to 72 other countries and may be up to 50 percent more transmissible than other variants.

Israel leads the world in vaccinating its citizens. So far, more than a third of its population of more than nine million people has received a first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and nearly two million people have received a second dose.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:30 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 am
Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
Absolutely true, but it still remains likely that a higher proportion of mask-avoiders etc. will end up with the virus...
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Seabass » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:03 pm

JimC wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:30 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 am
Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
Absolutely true, but it still remains likely that a higher proportion of mask-avoiders etc. will end up with the virus...
Unfortunately, they also breed more. :x
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:13 pm

That's coz they're not gay, unlike most Democrats... :tea:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:11 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 am
Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
While it is true that viruses don't care who you vote for, it is also misleading because infections are more prevalent and/or spreading faster among the Republicans than Democrats, both in Congress and the US population at large.
Congressional Republicans Infected With Covid Three Times More Than Democrats Dec 18, 2020
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In the House of Representatives, 29 members of the GOP have announced positive tests, making up just under 15% of all Republicans in the chamber.

After Richmond’s positive test, there are now 10 Democrats in the House that have tested positive, along with an additional presumed coronavirus case back in March from Rep. Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.), who did not take a test.

The 11 make up around 4.7% of Democrats in the House.

The gap is even more stark in the Senate, where 15.4% of Republicans have tested positive, compared with 4.2% of the Democratic caucus. (Link)
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My guess that similar differences between progressives and reactionaries can be seen in other countries.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:11 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 am
Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
While it is true that viruses don't care who you vote for, it is also misleading because infections are more prevalent and/or spreading faster among the Republicans than Democrats, both in Congress and the US population at large.
Congressional Republicans Infected With Covid Three Times More Than Democrats Dec 18, 2020
...
In the House of Representatives, 29 members of the GOP have announced positive tests, making up just under 15% of all Republicans in the chamber.

After Richmond’s positive test, there are now 10 Democrats in the House that have tested positive, along with an additional presumed coronavirus case back in March from Rep. Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.), who did not take a test.

The 11 make up around 4.7% of Democrats in the House.

The gap is even more stark in the Senate, where 15.4% of Republicans have tested positive, compared with 4.2% of the Democratic caucus. (Link)
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My guess that similar differences between progressives and reactionaries can be seen in other countries.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops. - Stephen J. Gould

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:14 pm

You can say that again. :tea:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Hermit » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:22 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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You can say that again. :tea:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:28 pm

Line 101 sure has a lot to answer for.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:56 am

JimC wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:30 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 am
Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
Absolutely true, but it still remains likely that a higher proportion of mask-avoiders etc. will end up with the virus...
Reminds me of the contempt I remember being piled on to those who were 'spreading AIDS' back in the day.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:38 am

Cunt wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:56 am
JimC wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:30 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:46 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 am
Viruses don't care who you vote for.
Right-wingers tend to see less need to protect themselves from them, so...
Sure, but they're a risk to the whole community not just other right-wingers.
Absolutely true, but it still remains likely that a higher proportion of mask-avoiders etc. will end up with the virus...
Reminds me of the contempt I remember being piled on to those who were 'spreading AIDS' back in the day.
No contempt involved, their own decisions simply have consequences.

Ones that, being conservatives, they may have difficulty in understanding. :tea:
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:18 am

The Equivalents are strong in that one.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:13 pm

The Dark Horse Podcast had another good talk about the virus and the lab leak hypothesis. They also touched on outdoor transmission, masking in outdoor environments, policy and cultural issues around masking.

I won't be so bold as to say it is interesting, as I don't want to giggle away a bunch of demands that I prove it interesting, or summarize for anyone, but if you want to listen to it, you can find it and let me know what you think. Maybe it is all uninteresting to those who don't want to 'trust the science'.
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