The Coronavirus Thread

[NineBerry]

It's only a worker in a quarantine hotel. I suppose he sniffed at some quarantined people's underwear. Repeat my suggestion to Australia to only use eunuchs as quarantine hotel workers

[JimC]

From all accounts, the guard in question followed the existing rules perfectly. What it has shown is that aerosol transmission is more prevalent than was earlier thought, and requires tougher measures to thwart, including better PPE and measures to control air flow in places holding potential or actual coronavirus cases. His immediate family have tested negative, and contact tracing and testing involving places he went is underway. Hopefully this can be quickly nipped in the bud. The vaccination program rolls out soon, with medical personal and people working at the quarantine facilities to have priority.

[Cunt]

measures to control air flow

I really think it might be worth examining the opposite of the usual, in some cases.

The usual is, the building is handling air for a building full of people.

The new, might be handling air individually.

Practically, I don't know...a personal drone making a wind blowing all my contamination away from the desired direction might be good...

[JimC]

measures to control air flow

I really think it might be worth examining the opposite of the usual, in some cases.

The usual is, the building is handling air for a building full of people.

The new, might be handling air individually.

Practically, I don't know...a personal drone making a wind blowing all my contamination away from the desired direction might be good...

In Oz, our best quarantine facility is an ex-mining camp in the Northern territory, in the middle of nowhere. It has long rows of single-story self-contained rooms, each opening to a verandah and the outdoors. Better than the re-circulating air in a modern hotel, unless they install ozone-based scrubbers or the like...

[NineBerry]

I hope no QAnon believer reads this information.

Proof of government-run underground bunkers...

[Cunt]

measures to control air flow

I really think it might be worth examining the opposite of the usual, in some cases.

The usual is, the building is handling air for a building full of people.

The new, might be handling air individually.

Practically, I don't know...a personal drone making a wind blowing all my contamination away from the desired direction might be good...

In Oz, our best quarantine facility is an ex-mining camp in the Northern territory, in the middle of nowhere. It has long rows of single-story self-contained rooms, each opening to a verandah and the outdoors. Better than the re-circulating air in a modern hotel, unless they install ozone-based scrubbers or the like...

If you had a drone, and could use the prop-wash to direct the flow around 'dirty people', it might help protect individuals. Also, in buildings, it might be nice to be able to isolate and aggressively vent areas on call.

Last time I was in a hospital under construction, the 'floors' were 2 floors high, with the thick ceiling hiding mechanical stuff. Lots of air handling. That was a couple years ago though, so not likely covid-inspired.

[JimC]

In the mining camp scenario I mentioned, all you would need is a simple extractor fan, venting to the non-verandah side...

[NineBerry]

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[Brian Peacock]

I like Cunts idea. It's has a certain dystopian but totally believable ring to it. Of course, simply blowing the potentially 'dirty air' away with personal micro-drones wouldn't be enough. Other people's air would just waft in to replace it. You'd need to carry your own air and maintain a positive pressure around you somehow. Perhaps something like a canister on the back with a feedline to some kind of mouthpiece - an Aerolung, if you will.

That still might be enough for some people. Asthmatic migh find it difficult for example. So maybe some kind of suit, with a fixed helmet and a self-contained air supply, that entirely shieldef you from potentially contaminating aerosols. Something like a space suit, but you wouldn't be popping out into hard vacuum but to the shops. An Earthsuit? (needs a better name)

Suits are cumbersome though, and could leave you vulnerable to injury or attack. You'd need something that you could get in an out of easily when you wanted to nip to the shops, but which also kept you safe, protected and comfortable while you were at it.

Something like a hermetically sealed mobility scooter - probably slightly militarised - that could whizz you to the shops at 50mph through town as well let you pootle round the supermarket aisles when you got there - weaving in and out of those idiots in Aerolungs and Earthsuits as you go no doubt! Opposable, extending mechanical grabbers controlled by VR could pick items from the shelves and drop them into a little airlocked storage hatch that slides out from the side of the... I'm going to call it a marquee. You'd pay by the internet (of course), and all safely and without having to come into potentially contaminating contact with anything or anyone.

The market for Aerolungs, Earthsuits and marquees could be massive. People wouldn't just want functional protection, some of them would want better protection than others and fancier products with cooler features, designs and branding. With marquees it would be all about the upgrades - from leather and walnut to souped up motors and top of the range non-lethal AI controlled 'defensive' systems. Bentley, Lamborghini, and Mercedes would certainly jump in to the luxury end of the marquees market. What blue-sky investment banker wouldnt want a piece of the Aerolung, Earthsuit and marquee pie?




Or you could just order online and have your stuff delivered.

[Cunt]

I was just thinking about personal air as opposed to building air, but I hadn't thought about compressed air. That makes a spacesuit work.

For hands, one could still use rubber gloves, and for the groin, gorilla tape as usual. For the head, if you had a light plastic fishbowl, that leaked a lot, you would only need to feed in enough air to blow slightly out the leaks, and you would be safe from air NOT in your tank.

[Brian Peacock]

I think we should go into the compressed air business. You've got loads of the good, clean, fresh stuff out there in the wilds.

[Cunt]

Shipping causes a fair amount of exposure. We could sell to the shipping industry.

Even better if we could have you mix it to distribute homeopathic air. Ship you a small amount, which you then mix, slap it around, and package it for the convenience of those visiting your...air-pothecary?

[rainbow]

I can't watch the vid yet, but I'm going to try over lunchtime. This looks like it might be interesting to Bainrow.

What a load of nonsense.
The 'evidence' is Covid is a Corona Virus, and the Wuhan Lab did some work on viruses.

There is nothing to show it escaped from that lab or any other.

Fail

[Sean Hayden]

Not exactly. The claim is that the lab collected a similar virus in ~2013 from several miners who became ill after prolonged exposure to bat shit. None of the miners family or others not in the mine got sick. Supposedly it's the virus, as of right now, considered to be closest to what has caused the pandemic. The hypothesis then is that a lab studying how a virus makes the leap to spreading among humans, leaked a successful experiment using that virus.

[NineBerry]

Or it started somewhere else and it was detected first in Wuhan because the doctors in the hospital there were aware of the issue because they have weekly after work parties in the same pub as the people at the laboratory and were suspicious earlier and could arrange Tests earlier than doctors in say Italian hospitals who have no time for parties because they have to go to church so often