Scientific Proof Of God

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:02 am

JimC wrote:
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Ok. So who created the heavens and the earth?
You observe that many things on Earth are created by direct human action, and you then assume that "being created" is the only way to explain the existence of things. Other possibilities exist, and have been explored by theoretical physicists and cosmologists for years. Fore example:

* the Universe has simply always existed, and so there was never a time "before"

* The Universe has an eternal cycle of big bang and big crunch

* our Universe started as a quantum fluctuation in space-time, and grew from there

* Universes continually bud off from events in a larger, 11 dimensional multiverse
Those are all unsatisfactory to the faithful. Ancient myths are much more pleasing to them.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:07 am

What a load of intellectual masturbation. You think you are so smart.

If the universe always existed therefore it is "eternal" Do you understand that this is a supernatural concept.

But we got more surprises coming

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:08 am

The faithful do have difficulty in grasping abstractions and mathematics. An emotional connection to a daddy figure trumps all else in immature minds.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:13 am

superuniverse wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:07 am
You think you are so smart.

If the universe always existed therefore it is "eternal" Do you understand that this is a supernatural concept.

But we got more surprises coming
The concept of existence is not supernatural, but a purely logical possibility. It is also possible that there was a definite beginning, with time itself non-existent prior to the big bang.

The views of one religious cult with a nasty angry god are totally irrelevant to achieving any real understanding of the universe.

And I think that "we have more surprises coming" would be a better turn of phrase; much less clumsy... :tea:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:15 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:13 am
superuniverse wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:07 am
You think you are so smart.

If the universe always existed therefore it is "eternal" Do you understand that this is a supernatural concept.

But we got more surprises coming
The concept of existence is not supernatural, but a purely logical possibility. It is also possible that there was a definite beginning, with time itself non-existent prior to the big bang.

The views of one religious cult with a nasty angry god are totally irrelevant to achieving any real understanding of the universe.

And I think that "we have more surprises coming" would be a better turn of phrase; much less clumsy... :tea:
But you have nothing

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:18 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:08 am
The faithful do have difficulty in grasping abstractions and mathematics. An emotional connection to a daddy figure trumps all else in immature minds.
There are subtle thinkers among them though. It's just that a place like this attracts only believers who are belligerent obsessives and care nothing for things like intellectual integrity and evidence-based inquiry.

Note that the title of this thread is a lie. There has been no 'scientific proof of God' presented here. Instead it serves as a platform for the OP to express hatred and contempt, while attempting to shift the burden of 'proof' onto anybody but himself.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:20 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:18 am
JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:08 am
The faithful do have difficulty in grasping abstractions and mathematics. An emotional connection to a daddy figure trumps all else in immature minds.
There are subtle thinkers among them though. It's just that a place like this attracts only belligerent obsessives who care nothing for things like intellectual integrity and evidence-based inquiry.
Speak for yourself, hypocrite!

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Hermit » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:35 am

superuniverse wrote:
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Ok. So who created the heavens and the earth?
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So say the Yazidi.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

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superuniverse wrote:
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Ok. So who created the heavens and the earth?
More importantly, who created the earth, the wind, and the fire?



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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:53 am

The only vital question is who created gin! :shiver:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Hermit » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:54 am

JimC wrote:
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Not for me - I can see a thin sliver of light between "...the myth of a god is thoroughly dispelled, debunked..." and "having been proven to not exist"... ;)
OK, leaving that alleged thin sliver of light between "...the myth of a god is thoroughly dispelled, debunked..." and "having been proven to not exist" aside, do you think the absence of material evidence in support of claims for supernatural entities justifiably supports the conclusion that supernatural entities do not exist?
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:57 am

superuniverse wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:15 am
JimC wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:13 am
superuniverse wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:07 am
You think you are so smart.

If the universe always existed therefore it is "eternal" Do you understand that this is a supernatural concept.

But we got more surprises coming
The concept of existence is not supernatural, but a purely logical possibility. It is also possible that there was a definite beginning, with time itself non-existent prior to the big bang.

The views of one religious cult with a nasty angry god are totally irrelevant to achieving any real understanding of the universe.

And I think that "we have more surprises coming" would be a better turn of phrase; much less clumsy... :tea:
But you have nothing
Nothing is a very important concept. Before the concept of zero was added to the mathematical lexicon (from the East, via the Arab world), mathematics struggled to develop the full model of number.

And nothing is at the heart of some very deep philosophical positions; the empty hand grasps truly... :levi:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:59 am

As you are all clueless to what is happening...


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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:01 am

superuniverse wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:59 am
...what is happening...
You walk into the room
With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked
And you, you say, "Who is that man?"
You try so hard
But you don't understand
Just what you will say
When you get home

Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You raise up your head
And you ask, "Is this where it is?"
And somebody points to you and says
"It's his"
And you say, "What's mine?"
And somebody else says, "Well what is?"
And you say, "Oh my God
Am I here all alone?"

But something is happening
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, "How does it feel
To be such a freak?"
And you say, "Impossible"
As he hands you a bone

And something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

You have many contacts
Among the lumberjacks
To get you facts
When someone attacks your imagination
But nobody has any respect
Anyway they already expect you
To all give a check
To tax-deductible charity organizations
You've been with the professors
And they've all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks
You've been through all of
F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
You're very well read
It's well known

But something is happening here
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you
And then he kneels
He crosses himself
And then he clicks his high heels
And without further notice
He asks you how it feels
And he says, "Here is your throat back
Thanks for the loan"

And you know something is happening
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

Now you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word "NOW"
And you say, "For what reason?"
And he says, "How?"
And you say, "What does this mean?"
And he screams back, "You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home"

And you know something's happening
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

Well, you walk into the room
Like a camel and then you frown
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground
There ought to be a law
Against you comin' around
You should be made
To wear earphones

'Cause something is happening
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:03 am

But the original is more revealing...


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