"Alt-right" Still Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

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Cunt wrote:
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You think the poor or the disadvantaged in society don't value family? Stop speaking nonsense.
I think having good family predicts a lot of 'advantage', and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of 'disadvantage'.
Tell someone who disagrees with that.

Also, nice you dropped the word 'privilege' at last. :tup:
It's a privilege to watch language policed. I wonder if it is a family tradition...
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Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:30 am

Here is an example of the results of 'family privilege', expressed as one of the adverse outcomes of 'Father-absent homes'.
ADVERSE OUTCOME 9: Poverty and Homelessness

According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2011), children from absent-father homes are four times more likely to be living in poverty. Often children with an absent father also have less networking connections to aid them in the working world (Coleman, 1988). Furthermore, studies have shown that the cause of the father’s absence matters little in relation to poverty and divorce (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1998; McLanahan & Casper, 1995). Poverty also presents a obstacle for children pursuing well-paid jobs, which can result in increased stress and frustration (Cloward & Ohlin, 1960; Merton, 1957). Children from father-absent homes may also be more likely to shoplift and become chronic shoplifters (Manning & Lamb, 2003).
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:30 am
Here is an example of the results of 'family privilege', expressed as one of the adverse outcomes of 'Father-absent homes'.
ADVERSE OUTCOME 9: Poverty and Homelessness

According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2011), children from absent-father homes are four times more likely to be living in poverty. Often children with an absent father also have less networking connections to aid them in the working world (Coleman, 1988). Furthermore, studies have shown that the cause of the father’s absence matters little in relation to poverty and divorce (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1998; McLanahan & Casper, 1995). Poverty also presents a obstacle for children pursuing well-paid jobs, which can result in increased stress and frustration (Cloward & Ohlin, 1960; Merton, 1957). Children from father-absent homes may also be more likely to shoplift and become chronic shoplifters (Manning & Lamb, 2003).
Again: Tell someone who does not think having good family predicts a lot of advantage, and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of disadvantage.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:53 am

Having family grants more privilege than does skin colour, religion or height. Heck, even hair colour doesn't come close.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:58 am

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Having family grants more privilege than does skin colour, religion or height. Heck, even hair colour doesn't come close.
The statistics you are going to provide to support your assertion will undoubtedly bear it out.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:07 am

I expect he's probably right (if he means good family), or at least close to it. Not that I have any stats to back that up.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:09 am

If you are in doubt, you can look up anything you want.

Even things that confer privilege more than a solid family, if you can find them.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:24 am

Cunt wrote:
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That sounds like the voice of privilege. Good for you, nb. I hope the unrest in the US also leaves you unharmed.
Ah, you do know that 9B is in Germany?
It's a different world, surely, but having no doubt about your whole family, all being surely outside a federal penitentiary, is privilege you might not recognize.

If in America, he would be more likely to be in doubt.

If in a rough family, he would be more likely to be in doubt.

If a merry-begot, or bastard, he would be more likely to be in doubt.

I stand by my accusation of privilege based on those things, and honestly hope he enjoys the benefits he experiences of good country, family, lineage and all that implies. Heck, even regular hugs.
Not being incarcerated by the state is a... privilege?
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:02 am

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If you are in doubt, you can look up anything you want.
Thanks for telling me what I can do, but you made an assertion. It's up to you to back it up.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:44 am

He's just asking questions.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:08 am

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He's just asking questions.
Right now he isn't even doing that. His latest reply mirrors another favourite of people who can't back their assertions up: "Do your own research."
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Post by NineBerry » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:04 am

Right-Wingers arguing over pronoun-use for a trans woman

https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/ ... 0475612163

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Post by Cunt » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:23 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:08 am
pErvinalia wrote:
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He's just asking questions.
Right now he isn't even doing that. His latest reply mirrors another favourite of people who can't back their assertions up: "Do your own research."
I'm not in any doubt that good family is a better predictor of success than is skin colour, height or many other things often called 'privilege'.

If you are, you are welcome to. Heck, you are even welcome to 'prove' it. I already offered a starting point for you.
ADVERSE OUTCOME 9: Poverty and Homelessness

According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2011), children from absent-father homes are four times more likely to be living in poverty. Often children with an absent father also have less networking connections to aid them in the working world (Coleman, 1988). Furthermore, studies have shown that the cause of the father’s absence matters little in relation to poverty and divorce (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1998; McLanahan & Casper, 1995). Poverty also presents a obstacle for children pursuing well-paid jobs, which can result in increased stress and frustration (Cloward & Ohlin, 1960; Merton, 1957). Children from father-absent homes may also be more likely to shoplift and become chronic shoplifters (Manning & Lamb, 2003).
If you want to disagree on a particular point, why not make your claim more clear, instead of asking me to defend something so vague?
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:30 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:23 pm
Hermit wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:08 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:44 am
He's just asking questions.
Right now he isn't even doing that. His latest reply mirrors another favourite of people who can't back their assertions up: "Do your own research."
I'm not in any doubt that good family is a better predictor of success than is skin colour, height or many other things often called 'privilege'.

If you are, you are welcome to. Heck, you are even welcome to 'prove' it. I already offered a starting point for you.
ADVERSE OUTCOME 9: Poverty and Homelessness

According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2011), children from absent-father homes are four times more likely to be living in poverty. Often children with an absent father also have less networking connections to aid them in the working world (Coleman, 1988). Furthermore, studies have shown that the cause of the father’s absence matters little in relation to poverty and divorce (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1998; McLanahan & Casper, 1995). Poverty also presents a obstacle for children pursuing well-paid jobs, which can result in increased stress and frustration (Cloward & Ohlin, 1960; Merton, 1957). Children from father-absent homes may also be more likely to shoplift and become chronic shoplifters (Manning & Lamb, 2003).
If you want to disagree on a particular point, why not make your claim more clear, instead of asking me to defend something so vague?
Again again:
Hermit wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am
Cunt wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:30 am
Here is an example of the results of 'family privilege', expressed as one of the adverse outcomes of 'Father-absent homes'.
ADVERSE OUTCOME 9: Poverty and Homelessness

According to the U.S. Census Bureau (2011), children from absent-father homes are four times more likely to be living in poverty. Often children with an absent father also have less networking connections to aid them in the working world (Coleman, 1988). Furthermore, studies have shown that the cause of the father’s absence matters little in relation to poverty and divorce (U.S. Bureau of the Census, 1998; McLanahan & Casper, 1995). Poverty also presents a obstacle for children pursuing well-paid jobs, which can result in increased stress and frustration (Cloward & Ohlin, 1960; Merton, 1957). Children from father-absent homes may also be more likely to shoplift and become chronic shoplifters (Manning & Lamb, 2003).
Again: Tell someone who does not think having good family predicts a lot of advantage, and being born into a broken family predicts a lot of disadvantage.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops. - Stephen J. Gould

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