Media Bias

[pErvinalia]

Violence is needed when standing up to fascists. Fascists aren't going to stand down in the face of a well reasoned argument.

[Cunt]

Violence is needed when standing up to fascists. Fascists aren't going to stand down in the face of a well reasoned argument.

When have you needed to get violent with a fascist?

Or are you talking more 'theory' and less 'lab'?

[Brian Peacock]

Hey, you got him good there. And you didn't even have to reference the point he was making.

[Cunt]

I quoted his whole post and commented on it. No biggie though. If he wanted a full and vigorous discussion of the differences, he knows where that is welcome.

I think of this as more a place for gin, ski-stories and burlesque.

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

[pErvinalia]

I quoted his whole post and commented on it.

Sure, but it was an ad hom, not actually addressing the point.

[Hermit]

I would be comfortable dressing in Biden garb, and attending an event with 10000 members of the proud boys.

I would not be as comfortable dressing in MAGA garb, and attending an event with 10000 members of antifa.

Actually testing either proposition looks like a pretty harebrained idea to me, but comparing the number of people killed by Trump supporters to the number of people killed by Biden/Clinton supporters, the latter seems a safer one.

[Cunt]

Ask Andy Ngo.

Of course, antifa isn't a group, and the antifa group he was reporting on isn't wrong to beat him up. He did re-dox them, after all. (the police arrest records were the initial doxing)

The Dark Horse podcast is going to start selling 'First Against The Wall' schwag. Progressives are funny.

[JimC]

I have not heard of an antifa only protest/riot. Their basic premise is to attend right-wing/neo-nazi rallies as an aggressive counter-force. I suspect that a fair few of them are in it for the rush they get from street fighting, but they are not inherently a revolutionary group...

[Hermit]

Ask Andy Ngo.

He got murdered?

17 years before the Charlottesville murder Dale L. Watson Executive Assistant Director, Counterterrorism/Counterintelligence Division of the FBI - an organisation not known to be sympathetic to lefties - reported to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that

During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat

Empirical data show beyond doubt that the situation has worsened considerably since then, but I won't trouble you with bothersome facts. You'll just reject them because of my bias. So I'll just leave you with a picture of a Proud Boy member aiming his revolver, finger on the trigger, at a protester last August.



I would definitely not be comfortable dressing in Biden garb, and attending an event with 10000 members of the Proud Boys.

[Cunt]

Ask Andy Ngo.

He got murdered?

17 years before the Charlottesville murder Dale L. Watson Executive Assistant Director, Counterterrorism/Counterintelligence Division of the FBI - an organisation not known to be sympathetic to lefties - reported to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that

During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat

Was the 9/11 bombing a right-wing extremism? Left-wing?

It looks like what is defined as 'left' and 'right' has changed a whole lot, which might confound reports like this.

Do you think JF Kennedy would be a Democrat today? Hard-right Republican?

I would definitely not be comfortable dressing in Biden garb, and attending an event with 10000 members of the Proud Boys.

How many deaths at the hands of BLM rioters? Or were those Antifa?

How many at the hands of the Proud Boys?

I would not mind being in Biden garb around Proud Boys. I like my chances of being unmolested a lot better than in a MAGA hat at the other guys event.

[Brian Peacock]

It's interesting that some people think alt-right groups like the Proud Boys aren't agitators for a white ethnostate - and that pointing out that they are is some kind of malign prejudiced slur.

As a group they're a small part of a broader reactionary force with a stated neo-fascist bent and a distinctly white supremacist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic and anti-immigration agenda.

I don't think that kind of social-political agenda is good for society, but I can understand why some might.

[pErvinalia]

Yeahbut some anarchist smashed a window.

[Cunt]

As a group they're a small part of a broader reactionary force with a stated neo-fascist bent and a distinctly white supremacist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic and anti-immigration agenda.

Where did this information come from? Their website?

I don't think that kind of social-political agenda is good for society, but I can understand why some might.

You know you are saying this about a group led by a brownish guy, right? Tarrio, his name is. Why do you suppose so many white supremacists follow a guy like that?

[Brian Peacock]

It's interesting that some people think alt-right groups like the Proud Boys aren't agitators for a white ethnostate - and that pointing out that they are is some kind of malign prejudiced slur...

[Cunt]

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the Proud Boys (led by Enrique Tarrio) are agitaors for a white ethnostate. I think they disagree with you. I guess you could talk it out with them if you want, but I don't understand why you would say that.

Probably better to stick to gin here...