US Election 2020

[Tero]

It's just talk!
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-coup-2649561685

[Hermit]

Yeah. I know ... utterly sysiphean.

Empty rallies, no campaiging, endless gaffs and the support of a media that has been losing public confidence.

Nope, nothing suspicious there.

You forgot to mention that Biden has won a miserably low number of 477 counties, while Trump won a huge number: 2497.

Personally, I'm open to the possibility that there was voter fraud, massive enough to come to the conclusion that we can conclude that Trump's landslide victory was stolen from him. All it would take me to be convinced of it is for his team to take the matter to the relevant courts and win those cases.

Unfortunately, this has not happened yet. Most of the several dozen cases team Trump did bring to the courts were not even about fraud. They were about technicalities, and they lost all but one.

I am particularly amused about the recount in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. OANN, the news provider you can trust, reported that "Election officials in Milwaukee found an uncounted batch of 386 ballots during the ongoing election audit in Wisconsin." Yep, that's the entirety of their article on the matter. Presumably we are supposed to see it as evidence that the election has indeed been falsified to Trump's disadvantage. What OANN forgot to mention is that 125 of those previously uncounted votes went to Trump and 257 to Biden. The recount of the almost 460,000 votes in two counties at a cost 3 million dollars resulted in Biden's slender lead being increased by 132 votes. Plans by the Trump team to use the recount results as further evidence of massive voter fraud have been shelved.

[JimC]

An interesting article speculating as to whether Trump will turn up at Biden's inauguration:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-a ... 56p37.html

I like the section at the end:

Trump's presence at Biden's inauguration would show the world that power does transfer peacefully in America. But by itself, it wouldn't tell the country that the Donald Trump headed out the door is a magically changed version of the man who captured the White House in 2017 and immediately ruptured time-honoured institutional arrangements of government.

For that, Trump will have to also welcome the Bidens to the White House for tea on Inauguration Day morning and travel with them to the Capitol for the swearing-in – and then miraculously perform a few more inescapable duties.

Trump has to: publicly concede the election results; congratulate Biden on his victory; declare unambiguously that the 2020 elections were free and fair; acknowledge that his allegations of election fraud have been baseless; apologise for having tied up the courts with frivolous post-election lawsuits; ask forgiveness for trying to overturn the results; call a halt to his supporters attacks on honest and patriotic public officials doing their jobs; and pledge to never again, for as long as he draws breath, foment racial, class and cultural divisions in this country.

That's all.

Short of carrying out those eminently decent tasks, Trump should go ahead and do what many of us think he's pondering: remain recalcitrant and stiff the inauguration, devise schemes to steal the show, all the while finding new ways to keep his gullible followers begging for more.

[Tero]

Not giving up! With only boring vaccine stuff to deal with, Trump and Giuliani challenge PA once more. To prove a point. There was corruption!

The filing asks the justices to reverse three decisions from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court easing some of the state's election rules related to signature verification, Election Day observation and mail-in ballot declarations. It says the state's top court encroached on the authority given to state legislatures by the U.S. Constitution to carry out elections.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/20/tru ... in-pa.html

[L'Emmerdeur]

These guys, I tell you, they don't get no respect. One of the TV lawyers for Trump, suing the secretary of state of Georgia:

[L'Emmerdeur]

... have Trump as opponent.

I believe that GIF is based on the vote count in the 2016 election, which also went to Trump's opponent, though only by around three million votes, as opposed to Biden's seven million vote margin.

The reality is that with a few tens of thousands more votes spread over a handful of states, Trump would have won again, even if Biden had received seven million more votes than he did. That's how the US system functions.

[Hermit]

These guys, I tell you, they don't get no respect. One of the TV lawyers for Trump, suing the secretary of state of Georgia:

Don't mock Lin Wood. He is among the top ranks of lawyers supporting Trump. I am prepared to declare and very under plenty of perjury that this is true and correct.

Link to photo that actually shows up. At least until the Deep State get onto it.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Thanks, Hermit.

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Some of the pain felt by Trumpists is financial:

'How Offshore Oddsmakers Made a Killing off Gullible Trump Supporters'

A few factors might explain the yearlong surge in pro-Trump bets. First, think about the median person who regularly engages in online betting. The stereotype that popped into your brain is probably correct.

“Trump supporters are loud,” Morrow says. “They love Trump in a way that most candidates are not beloved, but they also represent the demographic of a lot of sports bettors. These are people that are 18 to 45, generally white male.”

Also, consider that Trump maintained that he could not lose this election, at least not legally. If he lost, he signaled, he would lean on Republican underlings and judges to flip the result. (He then did the leaning, if not the flipping.) Only a quarter of Republicans, even by December, believed Biden’s win was legitimate. On Tuesday, a day after the Electoral College voted for Biden, people were still backing Trump on PredictIt, a predictions market, meaning anyone who wanted to could make free money betting on Biden.

“If you watched OANN [around or after the election], you’re watching something that you and I would never recognize,” Sherwin says. “It’s just a whole completely different world out there. And there is enough money amongst old, rich, white people that live in that bubble that take advantage of this betting opportunity for two reasons. One, what they feel and what they believe, but two, it’s also a way to kind of stick it to the ‘lamestream media.’ You know what I mean? I think they can be like, Oh, you guys don’t know what you’re talking about, and I think I can profit off of this because you don’t understand the Real America.”

Sherwin’s theory of older, moneyed bettors contradicts Morrow’s view of bettors as mostly young guys. But the two agree that MAGA rhetoric influenced betting market behavior.

[Hermit]

Thanks, Hermit.

PDF files don't work with image tags. Also, Twitter images cannot be hotlinked and Facebook's URLs expire after somewhere between a couple of weeks and three months. I avoid all of them.

[pErvinalia]

Lemmy's image shows up fine for me.

[rainbow]

“The United States is a longstanding partner of Uganda. We expect our partners to live up to their obligations to hold free and fair elections. We are paying close attention to the actions of individuals who seek to impede the ongoing democratic process,” said Mike Pompeo, the Secretary U.S. Department of State in a tweet Thursday evening.

https://www.independent.co.ug/united-st ... elections/

Irony. Like goldy and bronzy, only it's made out of iron.

Baldrick

[Tero]

Youtube no longer carries voter fraud videos. So Trump tweets gateway bandit video!
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/statu ... 3034875904

confusing the trumpsters with computer code, spreadsheets and math (who does math in their head at that speed?)

Still, clever plan, for Trump, to make Trumpsters suspicious of any election. it won't go past January, as Twitter will ban him.

[Tero]

PA Republican rejected by Supreme Court earlier

The Supreme Court on Tuesday turned back an effort by Republicans to reverse President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in Pennsylvania.

The top court rejected a petition from Trump ally U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, a Pennsylvania Republican, who argued that virtually all of the state’s mail-in ballots were unlawful.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/supreme ... vania.html

Trump himself tries the same thing. He does have standing, but the wording of the case has not changed.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/2 ... nia-449424

[Tero]

Trump is again suing for PA on behalf of...himself. It's always the SAME case. I am reminded of the SNL skits (Chevy Chase as monster in closet with Gilda Radner etc.) but I could only locate the Landshark skit. Trump is the shark:

[Cunt]

DJT retweeter-in-Chief



Why would anyone be suspicious of such a trustworthy party, with a trusted leader, and unassailable ethical history?