US Election 2020

[Tero]

Is it OK to send some goons to watch voters?

Barrett said she could not "apply the law to a hypothetical set of facts." To be clear, voter intimidation is illegal and there is cause for concern.

[Tero]

Here are the fabricated Hunter Biden emails. Twitter and FB deleted any reference to them:
https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-rev ... cnJUYVh5WQ..

[Scot Dutchy]

Here are the fabricated Hunter Biden emails. Twitter and FB deleted any reference to them:
https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-rev ... cnJUYVh5WQ..

That is the most worrisome part; "Twitter and FB deleted any reference to them". Fuck the rest.

[Brian Peacock]

I for one welcome our new digital overlords, who are doing a terrific job in very difficult circumstances.

[Tero]

The email pdfs were created 2019.

[Scot Dutchy]

This is a first world country?

Record turnout as Americans endure long waits to vote early in 2020 election

A ‘pretty staggering’ 14 million Americans have already voted in the general election, according to an analysis

As voters turn out in record numbers to choose between Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election, Americans continued to endure hours-long waits to vote early.

A record of 14 million Americans have already voted in the general election, according to an analysis of voting information from the US Elections Project. In key swing states such as Florida more than 2 million voters have already cast their ballots.

“The numbers are pretty staggering for us and the return rates and the polling look good,” Steve Schale, a Democratic strategist in Florida, told Politico. “But there’s just a lot we don’t know.”

In Georgia, residents waited for as long as eight hours to exercise their democratic right. Many took to social media to share their experiences with early voting, noting lines of voters spanning several city blocks or school parking lots.

Democratic is something it is not.

[Scot Dutchy]

Recipe for chaos: 2020 election threatens to snap a US already pushed to the limit

The November election will be plagued by voter suppression, foreign interference, disinformation and a contested supreme court vacancy

It has been dubbed “the election that could break America”. On 3 November voters decide whether Donald Trump or Joe Biden is their next president. But this time the stakes are even higher than the simple question of who resides in the White House.

There is a widespread sense that the fate of the world’s oldest constitutional democracy hangs in the balance. The US has already been shaken in 2020 by the deadly coronavirus pandemic, economic collapse and a society-wide reckoning over racism. Now comes an election in which voter suppression, foreign interference, online disinformation and a bitterly contested supreme court vacancy offer a recipe for chaos.

Most threatening of all is an incumbent president who has spent months spreading disinformation and discrediting what he calls “the greatest Rigged Election in history”. Asked this week if he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power, he declined, saying: “Well, we’re going to have to see what happens. You know that. I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots. And the ballots are a disaster.”

Should Trump refuse to leave office, America could be plunged into a constitutional crisis and find itself in unchartered territory. Whatever the outcome, there is a high risk that a significant chunk of the population will not accept the winner as legitimate, leading to angry street protests in a country flush with guns and a fear that, after decades of corrosion, a system that was once the envy of the world is beyond repair.

“I never dreamed I would live through our democracy being this volatile and vulnerable and fragile,” said Moe Vela, a political strategist and LGBTQ and Latino activist. “I never dreamed it could ever happen. It was not in the realm of possibility and Donald Trump has taken us to the brink of the demise of our democracy. It really is that serious.”

[Tero]

What's the problem? Biden is sworn in. Trump is led by secret service to Marine 1 and helicoptered out. Then on to Mar a Lago. Ankle monitor installed.

[Brian Peacock]

What's the problem? Biden is sworn in. Trump is led by secret service to Marine 1 and helicoptered out. Then on to Mar a Lago. Ankle monitor installed.

...from where he'll give the Proud Boys the secret signal and broadcast the call for all True Americans to rise up and take back control, ending: "... Make America Great Again!! God Bless America. Amen. Goodnight, and as all True Patriots prepare to storm the gates of the White House rememeber that although I cannot be with you in body I will always be with you in spirit!"

[Tero]

Ballot curing: another way to pretend ballots will eventually be counted!

A mismatched signature or missing envelope can lead to mail-in ballots getting thrown out. But ballot "curing" is the process where voters can correct these mistakes, to make sure their votes are counted. States have different "curing" mechanisms -- some automatically notify voters about problems, while other states force voters to proactively follow-up with election officials.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics ... index.html

[laklak]

I saw something on that the other day, can't remember which state. They said one problem was that they throw out identifying information (the envelope, I assume) early in the process, but if they discover a mistake after that they have "options in place". What options? If you don't know who cast the ballot how can you contact them to fix a mistake? Do you just make an assumption? Are they lying and they still know who the vote is from, I.E. it's NOT a secret ballot?

It's ALL a fucking scam. All of it.

[NineBerry]

Over here, the signatures are checked at the exact time that the outer envelopes are removed. So, if the inner envelope with the ballot is used and put into a ballot box, all the requirements have already been checked. I assume this is what is described above. They open the outer envelope, find a problem with the signature and then notify the voter and throw away the inner envelope.

Since over here this all happens on the day of the election, a few hours before the voting process ends, there is no chance to notify the voters, but some mistakes can be cured automatically. A case we had often when I was involved in counting mail-in ballots was people living in the same household mixing up their envelopes and signature forms. When we found a case where the form didn't match the outer envelope, we put it aside. And then when a matching case with the other pair of envelope / form was found, we accepted both of them.

[Joe]

What's the problem? Biden is sworn in. Trump is led by secret service to Marine 1 and helicoptered out. Then on to Mar a Lago. Ankle monitor installed.

...from where he'll give the Proud Boys the secret signal and broadcast the call for all True Americans to rise up and take back control, ending: "... Make America Great Again!! God Bless America. Amen. Goodnight, and as all True Patriots prepare to storm the gates of the White House rememeber that although I cannot be with you in body I will always be with you in spirit!"

Well, they will have to get past the wall Trump had built to get to the gates.

[JimC]

I've just voted in 2 council elections (one here, and the other in Geelong where I own a block of land). These days, all council election voting is via mail in ballots, and you would have to be pretty moronic to stuff it up. Detailed instructions are given in several languages, too. Now, I know that the results of Victorian council elections are not exactly earth-shattering stuff, but the principle is the same...

[Sean Hayden]

We have all kinds of dumb rules for voting. Every time I vote someone in front of me is turned away because they're at the wrong place.