All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Why hasn't Trump blamed the Democrats for his sorry state?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/04/politics ... index.html

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Trump can't wait to get back to WH and fire Meadows:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ssion=true

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Trump, stuffed full of drugs, helicoptering back to WH.

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[Tero]

Scenario:
1 Trump can't get off oxygen
2 Pence and pals want to take over
Because "we need that judge"
3 Trump and clan force Pence to resign
4 Trump in hospital names Ivanka VP
5 Trump croaks
6 Ivanka rules till Jan
7 election is mess
6 no president
7 Pelosi becomes president

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On Saturday, the Trump team launched Operation MAGA, aimed at maintaining the energy of its campaign without the president at the helm. The campaign has said it will host virtual events until the vice presidential debate in Salt Lake City on Wednesday.

Trump rally without Trump.

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Walter Reed is by NIH, where that evil science is done and Fauci keeps an office. No more than 10 miles from WH.

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[JimC]

An interesting article in the Age:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-a ... 561wx.html

Pundits have been predicting the imminent collapse of Trump’s campaigns, his presidency, his support base for over four years. Yet he has held firm the loyalty of a steadfast 40 to 42 per cent of the US electorate regardless of scandals, failures and revelations that would have destroyed a conventional politician.

His support base is undeterred. "Voting for Trump is a cultural statement" and not subject to events, as the veteran analyst Charlie Cook has observed.

[Brian Peacock]

he needs synthetic antibodies? does that mean he's immunodepressed?
and if vaccines are not ready yet, I'm surprised such a treatment is advanced enough for him to volunteer to be a guinea pig.

But if he pulls through (and I hope he does because nobody needs him to become a martyr for bigotry) imaging the fillip for the drugs company - "Ask your physician today for the treatment that cured the President!"

[pErvinalia]

he needs synthetic antibodies? does that mean he's immunodepressed?
and if vaccines are not ready yet, I'm surprised such a treatment is advanced enough for him to volunteer to be a guinea pig.

But if he pulls through (and I hope he does because nobody needs him to become a martyr for bigotry)

He's not going to become a political martyr for anything. This had nothing to do with anti-bigotry. What will happen when he hopefully dies is the Repubs will have to pick a rushed candidate who'll have nowhere near the profile of Trump, and will likely lose. And that will be the end of the Trump era and his brush with fascism. Not to say there won't be a Trump 2.0 in the future, but that's a given whether he lives or dies.

[Brian Peacock]

he needs synthetic antibodies? does that mean he's immunodepressed?
and if vaccines are not ready yet, I'm surprised such a treatment is advanced enough for him to volunteer to be a guinea pig.

But if he pulls through (and I hope he does because nobody needs him to become a martyr for bigotry)

He's not going to become a political martyr for anything. This had nothing to do with anti-bigotry. What will happen when he hopefully dies is the Repubs will have to pick a rushed candidate who'll have nowhere near the profile of Trump, and will likely lose. And that will be the end of the Trump era and his brush with fascism. Not to say there won't be a Trump 2.0 in the future, but that's a given whether he lives or dies.

It's the living who hail the fallen hero as a martyr - whether in life he was a hero or not. I think if he dies his base are going to suddenly feel incredibly angry, unrepresented, disenfranchised. That frustration could bubble up in some very nasty ways imo and, along with the pageant and spectacle of a state funeral, could be the perfect backdrop for someone to step in and take up the Trumpian mantle - to honour the fallen hero by continuing the 'good work in his name' as it were.

I wonder how many senior Repugs are secretly asking Baby Jeysus to welcome Trump into heaven?

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[Scot Dutchy]

This is a political illness.

Sean Conley: who is the Trump doctor whose updates are raising questions

Physician’s press briefings leave medical experts, analysts and the public searching for the truth as to how sick the president really is

Donald Trump has often boasted of surrounding himself with “the best people” and the medical skills of Dr Sean Conley, the personal physician now charged with steering the US president back to health through his encounter with Covid-19, have never been called into question.

In attempting to present a true picture of the state of Trump’s health this weekend, however, Conley has shown a less-than-steady hand. Two bumpy press conferences in consecutive days on the steps of Maryland’s Walter Reed military medical center have raised more questions than answers, and have some wondering if Trump himself is controlling the information he is allowing his most senior doctor to release.

Conley was named the acting White House physician in March 2018 when Trump’s first choice, Dr Ronny Jackson, withdrew. Trained as an osteopath, Conley, who is also a US navy commander, was confirmed to the role two months later.

Until Saturday, other than an eyebrow-raising signing off on Trump taking the unproven drug hydroxychloroquine in June, Conley has remained out of the spotlight.

But in Saturday’s first press conference, hours after the president was airlifted to hospital by helicopter, Conley was evasive when questioned on the medical detail of Trump’s condition, such as his oxygen levels and effect of the virus on his internal organs. He opted instead to give an upbeat portrayal of Trump’s health, using vague phrases including “doing very well” and “no cause for concern”.

[Brian Peacock]

[Tero]

200 000 died? Their problem! Losers!

Conley also said yesterday that Trump could be discharged today. That doesn't mean the President is out of the woods, just that Conley may not need the special facilities the hospital has and he can continue Trump's treatment at the White House. Or it could mean that Trump basically told Conley that he was leaving on Monday, whether or not that was wise medically. On the other hand, NSA Robert O'Brien said yesterday that Trump will remain at Walter Reed for "at least another period of time." The White House still doesn't have its act together, with different people giving different stories.

Conley hinted at the possibility that Trump needed oxygen on Saturday as well as Friday, but was evasive about it. He did say that Trump was given dexamethasone. The Infectious Disease Society of America does not recommend giving that drug to patients with a mild case of COVID-19 because it can inhibit the body's ability to fight the virus. The use of dexamethasone, as well as the large number of treatments Trump was given, suggest that his condition over the weekend was not mild at all. Of course, all the treatments may have helped enormously. We should know in a week. By then we may also have a better idea of whether Trump has any permanent damage, as some COVID-19 patients do (and see the next item).

Politically, it is very wise to get out of the hospital as fast as possible. That way Trump will be able to maintain that COVID-19 is no worse than the flu and the fact that over 210,000 Americans died from it is simply bad luck. After all, he survived it. With the help of an army of excellent physicians at a top hospital who gave him experimental drugs not available to the general public. And all of it for free.

https://www.electoral-vote.com/