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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:35 pm

...or an ambitious and opportunistic local
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:35 pm

The FSM moves in mysterious ways. :spaghetti:
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:57 pm

Blessed be the pastiferous ones who follow its noodly hints.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:49 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:32 pm
Hurricane Laura topples Confederate statue

The South's Defenders monument in Lake Charles, Louisiana, has stood since 1915 outside a courthouse in the city where local authorities voted 10-4 this month to keep it in place. Now the pedestal is empty, and the Confederate statue is in pieces on the ground in the wake of Hurricane Laura.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:44 pm

WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE AIM OF ATHEISM?
A DEAD END!
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What has happened here is that the mind has liquidated itself. Religion and reason used to be united together; their forced separation, started by Berkeley and ended with Hume, has meant the death of both, and what we have now is a movement toward universal atheism. All metaphysics and general concepts have been more or less destroyed. Religion lost its living soul and became mainly artifice once it became detached from objective reality. The catastrophe that happened to religion also happened to the human mind.

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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?

Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?

We all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since they are all scientifically unverifiable.

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…3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:55 pm

There is no ultimate aim of atheism Denis. We're just people who don't believe what you've been taught to believe.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:29 pm

Justice and freedom spring from human existence, not from a non-existent god...
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by laklak » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:04 am

And political power flows from the barrel of a gun, comrade!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Hermit » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:28 am

superuniverse wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:44 pm
2 Cor 3-4

"The Light of the Gospel
…3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
So we turn to the New Testament for justice? If the man who has written to the Corinthians about the light of the gospel, that may not be a good idea, for he came up with an extraordinary amount of crap. For instance:

Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. [1 Corinthians 14: 34-35]

For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.[1 Corinthians 11:7]

For man is not from woman, but woman from man. Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man. [1 Corinthians 11: 8-9]

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Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. [Ephesians 5:24]

That being what Paul got out of the gospels, neither he nor they are useful guides for justice and freedom. Besides, neither are the words of god.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:29 am

superuniverse wrote:
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom?

Yes, burning people at the stake in the name of religion produces 50% more heat than hanging, drawing and quartering for political crimes.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Svartalf » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:46 am

Yeah, but if properly timed, it can help save power on public lighting.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:29 am

Svartalf wrote:
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Yeah, but if properly timed, it can help save power on public lighting.
A very good point indeed.
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