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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by NineBerry » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:55 am

There's a news item that a German company is developing a mask that can be worn by people with severe lung problems. So no more excuses for not wearing masks then

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:34 am

Freedum is always an excuse!
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:16 am

NineBerry wrote:
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There's a news item that a German company is developing a mask that can be worn by people with severe lung problems. So no more excuses for not wearing masks then
Does it have a PSA oxygen concentrator?
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:56 am

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Could not care Brian. Why should I? You are claiming everyone is telling the truth even the most corrupt country in the world and you are asking me about our data. Sorry but your country just swiped 5300 off the death toll and Belgium readjusted their figures and god knowes what is happening with the USA data in the run up to the election.
You ask me what? All i know is it is all bollocks. We were meant to have FIVE deaths. OMG five in 17 million. What a loss. Get a grip.
How corrupt is The Netherlands exactly, and who's corrupting it?

I can understand you not wanting to know what the excess deaths for NL are. Those things of which you remain ignorant don't have to be accounted for do they?

As mentioned several times already, the UK government reclassified 5300 deaths as non-Covid, but the excess deaths still tell a story. If it wasn't Covid that doubled the mortality rate in 5 months then what did? To that you'll also have no answer.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:42 am

He doesn't want to address the excess deaths, as he knows it blows a hole in his stupid argument. He's been provided the opportunity to address the excess deaths thing probably 15 or more times. It's instructive that he never responds to it.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:16 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:42 am
He doesn't want to address the excess deaths, as he knows it blows a hole in his stupid argument. He's been provided the opportunity to address the excess deaths thing probably 15 or more times. It's instructive that he never responds to it.
All explained here.
Over 400 more people died in the Netherlands last week, during the hottest week since temperature measurements started, than in the weeks before, Statistics Netherlands reported on Friday. The recorded coronavirus related deaths were low, so the excess mortality "is thus almost entirely attributable to the higher temperatures", the stats office said.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/08/21/400-heat- ... -week-ever
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:39 pm

See the thing is, the president has a natural ability to understand scientific issues, which supersedes all those pointy-headed doctors and scientists who've been corrupted by leftist university professors and recruited by the Deep State.

Clearly, if there is less testing there will be fewer cases, and the US of A will finally be able to put this foolishness behind it. As somebody said, 'This pretence has out lived its usefulness.'

'Trump officials pressured CDC to change virus testing guidelines'
Top Trump administration officials involved with the White House coronavirus task force ordered the Centers for Disease Control and Protection to stop promoting coronavirus testing for most people who have been exposed to the virus but aren't showing symptoms, according to two people with knowledge of the process.

Federal testing czar Brett Giroir denied those allegations Wednesday, telling reporters that the CDC ultimately decided to narrow the recommendations for who should be tested.

“The new guidelines are a CDC action,” Giroir said. “As always, the guidelines received appropriate attention, consultation and input from Task Force experts, and I mean the medical and scientific experts, including CDC Director [Robert] Redfield.”

The revised testing guidelines, which CDC released late Monday with no public notice, say it is up to state and local public health officials and health providers to decide whether people without symptoms or underlying risk factors need a test after high-risk situations — such as coming into contact with an infected person for more than 15 minutes.

The agency also now says it is up to local public health experts to decide whether testing is needed for people who attend a public or private gathering of more than 10 individuals when masks are not worn and social-distancing guidelines are not followed.

Anthony Fauci, the government's top infectious disease expert, said the change could send the wrong message. "I'm worried it will give people the incorrect assumption that asymptomatic spread is not of great concern," Fauci said in a statement read by CNN's Sanjay Gupta on-air Wednesday afternoon. "In fact, it is."

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:24 pm

NineBerry wrote:
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3000 traffic deaths in Germany last year. Nearly 10000 covid deaths so far.
If you believe everything.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Hermit » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:23 pm

rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:16 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:42 am
He doesn't want to address the excess deaths, as he knows it blows a hole in his stupid argument. He's been provided the opportunity to address the excess deaths thing probably 15 or more times. It's instructive that he never responds to it.
All explained here.
Over 400 more people died in the Netherlands last week, during the hottest week since temperature measurements started, than in the weeks before, Statistics Netherlands reported on Friday. The recorded coronavirus related deaths were low, so the excess mortality "is thus almost entirely attributable to the higher temperatures", the stats office said.
https://nltimes.nl/2020/08/21/400-heat- ... -week-ever
From the same article:
Between weeks 11 and 19 of this year, an estimated 9 thousand more people died than would have if there had been no pandemic.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:58 am

9000? Pah! The numbers are insignificant and nobody can justify any claims regarding cases or deaths. I mean, just look at the third world countries. There's no definitions of anything to do with this pandemic and you're just accepting data spewed out by a corrupt country without question.

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:32 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:58 am
9000? Pah! The numbers are insignificant and nobody can justify any claims regarding cases or deaths. I mean, just look at the third world countries. There's no definitions of anything to do with this pandemic and you're just accepting data spewed out by a corrupt country without question.

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Yes, indeed. Where was the control group?
:ab: Secondly where is the "Control Group"? :ab:

Was a double-blind study done? If so, how can blind statisticians be trusted? They have a hidden agenda. They even use a secret code called ⠃⠗⠁⠊⠇⠇⠑
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:19 am

What does this have to do with The Trump Pandemic?
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:20 am

Well, like Trump, you think the virus is some sort of conspiracy to control us.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:22 am

In a week of social activity, 2 sororities create over 100 cases. No masks.
https://www.klkntv.com/unl-reports-over ... -19-cases/

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:31 pm

Where does it make that claim and is it supported by scientific evidence.
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