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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:02 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:54 am
You keep on referring to the same disputed figures which are now accepted to be very untrustworthy.
They are only disputed by you.

Provide better figures if you can, or shut your cake-hole.

I am not the only one. No answers noted btw. There are no figures period. There was no international agreed protocol of data collecting. The Brits just lobbed off 5300 of their death list by changing the parameters they use for collecting.
And as it was pointed out before - the deaths didn't suddenly disappear, they were just reclassified as non-Covid. What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:51 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:33 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:30 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:02 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:54 am
You keep on referring to the same disputed figures which are now accepted to be very untrustworthy.
They are only disputed by you.

Provide better figures if you can, or shut your cake-hole.

I am not the only one.

Prove it.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:36 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:02 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:54 am
You keep on referring to the same disputed figures which are now accepted to be very untrustworthy.
They are only disputed by you.

Provide better figures if you can, or shut your cake-hole.

I am not the only one. No answers noted btw. There are no figures period. There was no international agreed protocol of data collecting. The Brits just lobbed off 5300 of their death list by changing the parameters they use for collecting.
And as it was pointed out before - the deaths didn't suddenly disappear, they were just reclassified as non-Covid. What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
Wrong. According to the official numbers, the were more than 500 new cases yesterday. There are more than 50 covid patients in ICU in the Netherlands and the were ten new hospitalisations yesterday and 6 new deaths.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:01 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
... What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
The excess death rate is the the number of deaths above the five-year average for a given period. So, what's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment for the period of March to July?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:01 am

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:41 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:01 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
... What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
The excess death rate is the the number of deaths above the five-year average for a given period. So, what's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment for the period of March to July?
Yebbut, that also includes people falling off their bicycles and drowning in canals due to wearing masks.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:42 am

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:59 am

Yeah yeah. Another non-scientific story. Only scientific presumptions. Wheel in some professor from a famous university (the more famous the better) and allow him to spout his opinions along with a few photos or vids and you have a great pseudo-doc. Sorry seen it all before. Simple and it appeals to simple logic. Never mind. If it satisfies you go with it "just in case".
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:01 am

rainbow wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:41 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:01 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
... What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
The excess death rate is the the number of deaths above the five-year average for a given period. So, what's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment for the period of March to July?
Yebbut, that also includes people falling off their bicycles and drowning in canals due to wearing masks.
Still not answering? Just FO until you do.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:53 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:02 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:54 am
You keep on referring to the same disputed figures which are now accepted to be very untrustworthy.
They are only disputed by you.

Provide better figures if you can, or shut your cake-hole.

I am not the only one. No answers noted btw. There are no figures period. There was no international agreed protocol of data collecting. The Brits just lobbed off 5300 of their death list by changing the parameters they use for collecting.
And as it was pointed out before - the deaths didn't suddenly disappear, they were just reclassified as non-Covid. What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:53 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:01 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
... What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
The excess death rate is the the number of deaths above the five-year average for a given period. So, what's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment for the period of March to July?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:15 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:53 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:01 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
... What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
The excess death rate is the the number of deaths above the five-year average for a given period. So, what's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment for the period of March to July?
:pop:
Weekly COVID-19 update: 12 Aug - 18 Aug 2020

4,013 new COVID-19 infections were reported over the past week. That is 23 fewer confirmed cases reported than the week before that. Hospital admissions (current or previous) due to COVID-19 were reported during the past week for 50 patients. That is 12 more than last week.

16 deaths of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patients were reported, 7 more than the week before.

Over 102,000 people have been tested in the GGD test lanes in the past week, 3,500 people more compared to the week before. At the national level, the percentage of positive tests remained about the same, at 3.5%. Just like last week, the reproduction number is above 1. See the news item Over 4,000 new infections, more hospitalisations.

Not all of the confirmed cases, hospital admissions or deaths that were reported during the past week also occurred within the last week. Some patients are reported later. For this reason, the figures are often supplemented with previous reports that had not yet been included. Since it is likely that not all people who have COVID-19 will get tested, the actual numbers in the Netherlands are probably higher than the numbers stated here.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:24 am

some states seem to know what they are doing
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:31 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:59 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:02 pm

They are only disputed by you.

Provide better figures if you can, or shut your cake-hole.

I am not the only one. No answers noted btw. There are no figures period. There was no international agreed protocol of data collecting. The Brits just lobbed off 5300 of their death list by changing the parameters they use for collecting.
And as it was pointed out before - the deaths didn't suddenly disappear, they were just reclassified as non-Covid. What's the Dutch excess death rate at the moment btw?
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
Still not answering rainbow?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:28 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:31 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:24 am
We had 10 new cases. Yep 10 in a population of 17 million. Not deaths or hospitalisations. Just 10 positive tests in one day. That is the parameter here; they must test positive and not just have symptoms which happens elsewhere.
There is no Covid patient in IC. They have a protocol of three drugs which shortens time in hospital by 4 days and stops the need of IC.
Still not answering rainbow?

You must have missed this:
Weekly COVID-19 update: 12 Aug - 18 Aug 2020

4,013 new COVID-19 infections were reported over the past week. That is 23 fewer confirmed cases reported than the week before that. Hospital admissions (current or previous) due to COVID-19 were reported during the past week for 50 patients. That is 12 more than last week.

16 deaths of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patients were reported, 7 more than the week before.
You say 10 cases, your own government says 4 013 cases in a week.

I suppose the Dutch government is lying?
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