All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:42 am

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Treasury Department data released Monday shows that religious organizations, ranging from nearly 10,000 Catholic churches to hundreds of Jewish groups, received 88,411 Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans since the program began April 3. Several churches affiliated with outspoken Trump supporters and close associates amassed at least $17.3 million in loans intended to help small businesses and nonprofits retain workers.

Included among the top loan recipients is the megachurch of pastor Robert Jeffress, who last year called Trump a Christian "warrior." Another is City of Destiny, the Florida megachurch run until recently by White House spiritual adviser Paula White-Cain.
https://www.newsweek.com/religious-orga ... av-A8plKlg
WTF??? :shock:
Isn't this in direct contradiction to the first amendment?
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:43 am

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:47 am

the state giving money to a religious organisation is establishment.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:49 am

Yeah but religion...it's just an entertainment business here.

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Post by Tero » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:42 pm

US anti-abortion groups received millions in federal Covid-19 aid
Planned Parenthood also received funding from Paycheck Protection Program, which some lawmakers demanded it return

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... 19-ppp-aid

We can't be aborting now. Gotta replace those 120 000 dead Americans!

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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:47 pm

If covid has chronic effects, which is a distinct possibility, that's going to be a big hit on your "healthcare" system.
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:50 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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If covid has chronic effects, which is a distinct possibility, that's going to be a big hit on your "healthcare" system.
No, it won't. Trump will allow insurances to discriminate on "pre-existing conditions". No money lost.

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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:56 pm

Sorry, I should restate that as "big hit on your 'death by bankruptcy' system..
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:01 pm

Just another Wednesday in Trumpistan. So much winning.

'Trump Pushed CIA to Give Intelligence to Kremlin, While Taking No Action Against Russia Arming Taliban'
Why would the Russian government think it could get away with paying bounties to the Taliban to kill American soldiers? One answer to that question may be the extraordinary response that Moscow received when the Trump administration learned of a precursor to the bounty operation. From mid-2017 and into 2018, Pentagon officials became increasingly confident in intelligence reports that the Kremlin was arming the Taliban, which posed a significant threat to American and coalition forces on the ground in Afghanistan.

President Trump’s actions in the face of the Russia-Taliban arms program likely signaled a weak US resolve in the eyes of Putin and Russian military intelligence.

Three dimensions of Trump’s response are described in detail in this article, based on interviews with several former Trump administration officials who spoke to Just Security on the record.

First, President Trump decided not to confront Putin about supplying arms to the terrorist group. Second, during the very times in which U.S. military officials publicly raised concerns about the program’s threat to US forces, Trump undercut them. He embraced Putin, overtly and repeatedly, including at the historic summit in Helsinki. Third, behind the scenes, Trump directed the CIA to share intelligence information on counterterrorism with the Kremlin despite no discernible reward, former intelligence officials who served in the Trump administration told Just Security.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:58 pm

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:25 pm

After 3 years as our stand up president, Trump still does not understand how government works:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/politics ... index.html

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:28 pm

Trump response to every problem:

It's going away.

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As indefensible as the Republican's position is, it's unfortunately not limited to the pandemic. Just in recent weeks, Trump and his team have confronted an economic crisis — the direct result of the coronavirus crisis — for which the White House has no apparent strategy. Indeed, as the unemployment rate reached levels unseen since the Great Depression, the president was asked for his plan to turn things around. Trump responded that an economic recovery was right around the corner, telling reporters: "I feel it. I feel it. I think sometimes what I feel is better than what I think."

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1 ... ssion=true

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:37 pm

never in the whole history of badness has an individual been treated so badly...
Trump’s taxes may be released to Manhattan grand jury, supreme court rules

The supreme court has ruled that a Manhattan grand jury may have access to some of Donald Trump’s financial documents, dealing a major blow to the president in his fight to keep his tax records secret – although the records were not expected to become public ahead of the November election.

Prosecutors in New York had sought the documents as part of an investigation into whether Trump had improperly handled hush payments, including one to the pornographic film actor star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 presidential campaign.

“This is a tremendous victory for our nation’s system of justice and its founding principle that no one – not even a president – is above the law,” Cy Vance Jr, the Manhattan district attorney, said. “Our investigation, which was delayed for almost a year by this lawsuit, will resume, guided as always by the grand jury’s solemn obligation to follow the law and the facts, wherever they may lead.”

Legal analysts warned, however, that the subpoena issued by Vance was not likely to be enforced anytime soon, and said Trump’s tax records were not likely to become public in the near future, under grand jury secrecy rules. The records could come to light if Trump is charged with a crime after he leaves office.

Trump won a temporary reprieve in a separate fight over his financial records, in which multiple Democratic-led committees in Congress had sought documents for investigations including an ethics investigation and one into foreign influence in the 2016 election.

The court affirmed both that Congress had the power to subpoena the documents and that the president had some privilege not to turn them over, and ordered a lower court to reconsider the “significant separation of powers concerns implicated by congressional subpoenas for the president’s information”.

Trump reacted angrily on Twitter. “This is all a political prosecution,” he wrote, referring to the investigation of special counsel Robert Mueller. “I won the Mueller Witch Hunt, and others, and now I have to keep fighting in a politically corrupt New York. Not fair to this Presidency or Administration!”...

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/ju ... urt-ruling
Interesting that the DoJ has been arguing against the release on the President's behalf.
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