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Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by Alan B » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 am

Most countries have had deaths due to Covid-19. Some were unavoidable since it was a 'new' virus (to humanity) with relatively unknown properties. Other deaths seem to be due to a deliberate lack of concensus from one country to another on how to protect the local populace. The wide variations in effective protection is due to various factors that vary from foreknowledge (S. Korea) to ignorance and stupidity (USA with its 'Mad Emperor' - the UK is not far behind) - it's the same virus regardless of which country in which it exists.
Someone must be responsible for the avoidable deaths and pay the price.

Which leads me to think about Culpable Homicide as described here in Wiki.

How would such an action be implemented? Would it be international (the UN?) or would it be left up to the local legal system?

Now, I'm not a 'legal eagle' (by any stretch of the imagination), so I'm asking would such an action be possible?
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by rainbow » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 am

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Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 am

How would such an action be implemented? Would it be international (the UN?) or would it be left up to the local legal system?

Now, I'm not a 'legal eagle' (by any stretch of the imagination), so I'm asking would such an action be possible?
The CIA has a budget which is 50 times that of the WHO.
Something like $100 billion.
OK some of the agents were playing computer games, checking twitter for AntiFa, and other important stuff.

...but surely someone noticed that there was something going down in Hubei?
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 am

To my mind, there is clear moral culpability attributable to both the poor early Chinese response, and the incompetence of various governments as the crisis unfolded. However, it is virtually impossible to lay clear legal responsibility at any particular door, and even if that were possible, pragmatically no legal action would ever be taken, or succeed if actually taken. The only real possibility of consequences (in countries where voting means at least something) will be at the ballot box in the next election...
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 am

Our government and legislators, in their great wisdom, passed a decree preemptively absolving them of any responsibility and wrongdoing, and the law watchdog let it pass.
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by rainbow » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:25 am

...so if you were unlucky enough to know one of those that attended Trump's Rally, would you be allowed to sue if you got the Covid?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:50 pm

Meh. Criminal negligence perhaps, but not Culpable homicide. The UK gov seems now to picking advisers that are happy to agree with it - but their defence will still be 'We were just following the advice we were given."
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:18 pm

Do protest organizers have responsibility for spreading the disease? Does it matter if the protesters were protesting lockdowns, or police corruption?

There is a 'test case' or sorts, in AIDS. There have been different approaches to holding people responsible for spreading it, at various times.

Most recently, I think California changed so that a 'HIV+' person doesn't have an obligation to disclose their status.
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by rainbow » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:38 am

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Do protest organizers have responsibility for spreading the disease?
How much did protests spread COVID-19 in Chicago? No way to know for sure, but overall figures continue to trend downward.
Outside, wearing masks.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
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Post by Cunt » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:33 pm

You give any advice you think the chigago tribune has for folks (didn't click your link, because I'm eating a orange)

For myself, if someone is responsible for others, I recommend thinking about transmission, and responsibility.

Whether you are staging a protest, rally, work crew or family gathering.

Same as HIV cautions taken at orgies. I was at one shady guys place, where he used a box of thumbtacks to pin used condoms to the wall behind the bar. Seems his wife, who preferred 'bareback' frolicking, left him when he insisted condoms were important. She won the house, so he pinned up a scorecard. He also enthusiastically encouraged condom use, citing deaths by AIDS as a good reason among many.
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by rainbow » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35 am

Cunt wrote:
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Same as HIV cautions taken at orgies.
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:57 pm

rainbow wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35 am
Cunt wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:33 pm
Same as HIV cautions taken at orgies.
:fp: :roll: :fp:
I wonder if he meant "precautions"? :ask:

Then again, I often wonder what Cunt meant in most of his posts... :tea:
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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by Cunt » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:33 pm

JimC wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:57 pm
rainbow wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35 am
Cunt wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:33 pm
Same as HIV cautions taken at orgies.
:fp: :roll: :fp:
I wonder if he meant "precautions"? :ask:

Then again, I often wonder what Cunt meant in most of his posts... :tea:
I dunno language good like you and the diocese, but it sounds funny using 'pre-', when describing an active knackering.

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Re: Culpable Homicide and Covid-19

Post by Cunt » Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:16 pm

With new info coming out, will there be some charges for who may have made this up in the lab? If it was a leak, deliberate or otherwise, there might need to be accountability for some aggrieved parties.
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