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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:17 pm

given the track record, everything?
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Post by Animavore » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:29 pm

President scumbag incites violence again.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Cunt » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:35 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:49 pm
You still won't acknowledge that those currently in power used a nazi symbol to denote their political opposition. If you want to know the the official antifa symbol you only have to look at my profile piccy.
I didn't see the ad. I was commenting on facebook, who chose (seemingly very specifically) to target one use of the symbol.

Who coded the emoticon to work in those social media platforms? Nazis? Antifas?

When did it become a hate-symbol instead of just an emoticon?
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The posts by Trump guys didn't even use it as an emoticon. They used it as an actual image and it was on the website that the post were linking to. The topic of the posts was supporting Trump's idea of declaring "Antifa" a terror organisation. What was the purpose of using that symbol in that context when the history behind the symbol is anti-fascists being murdered in concentration camps?
Is it better to believe your interpretation? Or the authors?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by NineBerry » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:01 pm

Why not listen to the experts?


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NineBerry wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:01 pm
Why not listen to the experts?
I did.
it is ironic that it took a Trump ad to force the media to implicitly concede that Antifa is a hate group.”
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by NineBerry » Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:17 pm

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:25 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:49 pm
You still won't acknowledge that those currently in power used a nazi symbol to denote their political opposition. If you want to know the the official antifa symbol you only have to look at my profile piccy.
Agreed, but the juxtaposition of "official" and "antifa" is a little weird... :tea:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:16 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:20 pm
Hermit wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:32 am
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:03 am
...the funny thing is, that policy used to belong to the left. Now it seems to be on the right.
The dismantling of environmental and health policies and the nepotism, the pandering to religious fundamentalists, the toleration of right wing terroists, the wholesale description of demonstrators and protesters as and the corruption and blackmailing that accompany them belong to the right. Because of these I regard the Dems as "dangerous mobs of far-left groups" marginally preferable.

Using the same symbol the Nazis devised to label political dissidents incarcerated in concentration camps really takes the cake.

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Facebook’s decision to censor one of the Trump campaign’s ads, which calls on Americans to join the President in opposition to the far-left domestic terrorist Antifa movement, rests on the flimsy argument that an Antifa symbol used by the campaign in its Facebook post is actually a Nazi symbol.

The symbol in question is an inverted red triangle with a black border. Left-wing advocacy groups including Media Matters claim the symbol was used to designate political prisoners in Nazi concentration camps.

That was one of the ways in which inverted red triangles were used historically. But the symbol predates the Nazis, and was used by the far-left militants as early as 1890. Today, the symbol has been co-opted by the modern-day militant movement Antifa, which uses it widely.

Tim Murtagh, Director of Communications for the Trump campaign, strongly condemned Facebook’s censorship in a statement.

“The inverted red triangle is a symbol used by Antifa, so it was included in an ad about Antifa,” said Murtagh. We would note that Facebook still has an inverted red triangle emoji in use, which looks exactly the same, so it’s curious that they would target only this ad. The image is also not included in the Anti-Defamation League’s database of symbols of hate. But it is ironic that it took a Trump ad to force the media to implicitly concede that Antifa is a hate group.”
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So is it a Nazi symbol? Or Antifa?
It is the symbol the Nazis devised to label political dissidents incarcerated in concentration camps. Only some of the people looking through the lens correction of their known love for Trump miss the obvious, but you don't love Trump, so don't pretend you can't see that.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:26 pm

Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:35 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:49 pm
You still won't acknowledge that those currently in power used a nazi symbol to denote their political opposition. If you want to know the the official antifa symbol you only have to look at my profile piccy.
I didn't see the ad. I was commenting on facebook, who chose (seemingly very specifically) to target one use of the symbol.
Are you expecting anyone to believe that? You did see the ad. You even quoted it when you posted a reply.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by JimC » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:37 pm

Oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:16 am

I was in Tulsa last summer. We went to the Woodie Guthrie museum, then we had dinner. Awful one way streets with just stop signs in the popular North side. We didn't stay, we went to our bike ride town.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Hermit wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:26 pm
Cunt wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:35 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:49 pm
You still won't acknowledge that those currently in power used a nazi symbol to denote their political opposition. If you want to know the the official antifa symbol you only have to look at my profile piccy.
I didn't see the ad. I was commenting on facebook, who chose (seemingly very specifically) to target one use of the symbol.
Are you expecting anyone to believe that? You did see the ad. You even quoted it when you posted a reply.
Still didn't see the 'ad'. If it's an image, maybe I did, I thought it was a vid.

No, I saw facebook censoring based on their political views. I see them. I see some of you slobbering approvingly too.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:41 am

NineBerry wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:00 pm
The red triangle is used by some Antifa groups in Europe the same way the pink triangle is used by some gay rights groups. Since it is a representation of the group being persecuted under national socialism, using it in the context of trying to say you are against the group is extremely weird and bad-tasted. Either you don't know what the symbol represents or deliberately condone the persecution under nazism.
I've seen it on occasion. What I'm questioning is the 'wide-spread' phraseology. When the ad/tweet first came out (purely coincidental that the organization bought 88 slots for the ad) doing image searches for 'antifa symbol' or similar phraseology brought up the the three arrows and the red and black dual flag image. I know because I did that myself.

The 'justification' image the campaign then posted could be found in images searches; the result was the twitter image from the campaign and one other twitter account. No other instances found using multiple image search engines.

I've never seen a red triangle banner, and would be interested in seeing an example of such. People wearing it on their clothing isn't really the same thing as using it as a banner, and signifies differently. It hasn't been that common in the US, as far as I'm aware.

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