The Trump Pandemic

[Cunt]

Defend away, guys. I get that you approve 'treading upon'.

But don't pretend it isn't authoritarian crap.



I know which one I would rather have as a neighbour.

Still playing 'let's pretend' eh? As if you didn't know the Gadsden flag is an informal emblem associated with far-right, white supremacist, and other neo-Nazi groups in the US - the acknowledgement of which would, of course, change the context of the symbols in both cases, quite considerably, and with it the context of the conversation you'll now be keen to avoid.

Yes, everything symbolizes exactly what you believe it does, and no more. You can't differentiate the left from the far left, so why would I trust your judgement of what is 'far right'?

You WILL tread. I don't want to be near when you do.

[Joe]

Tim Pool really ought to research a little before making a fool of himself on the internet. That is not a fascist symbol.

From Wikipedia:

A raised right fist was used as a logo by the Industrial Workers of the World[3] (IWW) in 1917. However, it was popularised during the Spanish Civil War of 1936–1939, when it was used by the Republican faction as a greeting, and was known as the "Popular Front salute" or the "anti-fascist salute". The right fist salute subsequently spread among leftists and anti-fascists across Europe.[4]

The graphic symbol was popularised in 1948 by Taller de Gráfica Popular, a print shop in Mexico that used art to advance revolutionary social causes.[5] Its use spread through the United States in the 1960s after artist and activist Frank Cieciorka produced a simplified version for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee: this version was subsequently used by Students for a Democratic Society and the Black Power movement.[6]

The raised right fist was frequently used in propaganda posters produced during the May 1968 revolt in France, such as La Lutte continue, depicting a factory chimney topped with a clenched fist.[7][8][9]

The symbol has been picked up and incorporated around the world by various oppressed groups. In 2015 it has emerged in the southeast area of Ukraine among the separatists battling the Ukraine Kiev government forces, along with the phrase "¡No Pasarán!".[10]

The image gallery shows how a raised fist is used in visual communication. Combined with another graphic element, a raised fist is used to convey polysemous gestures and opposing forces.[11] Depending on the elements combined, the meaning of the gesture changes in tone and intention. For example, a hammer and sickle combined with a raised right fist is part of communist symbolism, while the same right fist combined with a Venus symbol represents Feminism, and combined with a book, it represents librarians.

A raised right fist icon appears prominently as a feminist symbol on the covers of two major books by Robin Morgan, Sisterhood is Powerful, published in 1970,[12] and Sisterhood Is Forever, in 2003.[13] The symbol had been popularised in the feminist movement during the Miss America protest in 1968 which Morgan co-organised.[4]

A raised fist incorporates the outline of the state of Wisconsin, as designed in 2011, for union protests against the state rescinding collective bargaining.[14]

In Pool's defense, he was born in 1986.

So all that, and you think that fist, strangling the gadston snake, is NOT a symbol of getting fascistic with a snake who just wants to be left alone?

Yeah, because I actually read it, it shows definitively that it was an anti-fascist symbol. Plus, you clearly don't grasp the meaning of the word fascistic or have any knowledge of how many black people view the Gadsden flag in this day and age.

I sincerely hope you don't discover how wrong you are by meeting a real fascist.

[Tero]

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[Cunt]

I sincerely hope you don't discover how wrong you are by meeting a real fascist.

So wait - are you saying that real fascists are rare?

I thought so.

I guess all those antifa inactivists will have to find something else to oppose then.

Good of you to offer to speak on behalf of black people, and offer a subtext, but if I need the opinion of 'the blacks', there are better ways than you and WaPo. (isn't that the magazine that Bezos owns?)

Now, if you'll just wrap up by accusing me of having racist views, because I don't like authoritarian 'treading' on anyone, then I'll know how to value your opinion on that.

[pErvinalia]

It's a picture of the upraised fist, squashing the rattlesnake from the gadston flag, the text says 'will tread on you'.

So admitting they are fascists.

Yes, being an anti-fascist make you a fascist. In Cunt bizzaro world.

[Joe]

Yeah, because I actually read it, it shows definitively that it was an anti-fascist symbol. Plus, you clearly don't grasp the meaning of the word fascistic or have any knowledge of how many black people view the Gadsden flag in this day and age.

I sincerely hope you don't discover how wrong you are by meeting a real fascist.

So wait - are you saying that real fascists are rare?

I thought so.

I guess all those antifa inactivists will have to find something else to oppose then.

No Cunt, I'm not saying real fascists are rare. I wrote what I meant, which is I hope you never meet a real one. It's one thing to read about it in a book, another to meet an adherent in the flesh. Tim Pool's assertion that those people are fascists is just as stupid and harmful as the idiots who say Trump is Hitler, and you're wrong to blindly accept it.

Good of you to offer to speak on behalf of black people, and offer a subtext, but if I need the opinion of 'the blacks', there are better ways than you and WaPo. (isn't that the magazine that Bezos owns?)

Now Cunt, I don't and didn't "offer to speak on behalf of black people," you're reading things into what I wrote that aren't there. What part of "how many black people view the Gadsden flag in this day and age," and the specific examples of that view I linked to support that reading. That's a really nasty thing to say, but I get the sense you're just venting.

Now, if you'll just wrap up by accusing me of having racist views, because I don't like authoritarian 'treading' on anyone, then I'll know how to value your opinion on that.

You have racist views? I'll need to see some evidence of that.

[pErvinalia]

Well he is a Republican, so there's a fair chance he's racist.

[Joe]

Naw, racist is bipartisan in the US, and besides, Cunt's a Canuck. There's no tax cut for him.

[Cunt]

Naw, racist is bipartisan in the US, and besides, Cunt's a Canuck. There's no tax cut for him.

pErvinalia can't even figure out my race, so I won't worry too much about him thinking I'm racist.

[JimC]

I think that you probably belong to the human race, but I could be wrong - Galaxian would know for sure...

[rainbow]

Naw, racist is bipartisan in the US, and besides, Cunt's a Canuck. There's no tax cut for him.

pErvinalia can't even figure out my race, so I won't worry too much about him thinking I'm racist.

The fact that you even believe in the idea of "race" makes you racist.

There is one race, the human race, are you not a member?

[Scot Dutchy]

Exactly.

[Joe]

I think that you probably belong to the human race, but I could be wrong - Galaxian would know for sure...

I'm sure Galaxian would have a test for that, but fear it would involve a rectal probe.

[JimC]

Cunt simply needs to take one for the team...

[Joe]