George Floyd protests

Post Reply
User avatar
Tero
Just saying
Posts: 51118
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:50 pm
About me: 15-32-25
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:51 pm

Law and order! Never mind customers.
International disaster, gonna be a blaster
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)

User avatar
Tero
Just saying
Posts: 51118
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:50 pm
About me: 15-32-25
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:12 pm

No more Cops. On TV.
The verite police show, which originated on Fox in 1989, had been pulled days before its scheduled season premiere, an action that came amid nationwide questions and protests about policing.

Those same concerns prompted A&E to postpone "Live PD," a newer iteration of the ride-along idea that's one of the network's most popular series.

https://abc7.com/cops-tv-show-cancelled ... e/6240050/
International disaster, gonna be a blaster
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by laklak » Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:46 pm

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/lo ... rt-looting

Walmart and Target not sure they'll reopen looted stores in Chicago. Chicago mayor asking for $1.2 million to hire private security firms to protect businesses. Defund the police, bring in Halliburton. What could possibly go wrong?

I hesitate to make the connection between general crime levels, riots and looting and the lack of stores in certain neighborhoods. Surely the two aren't connected, it must be systematic racism.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

User avatar
Seabass
Posts: 7339
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:32 pm
About me: Pluviophile
Location: Covidiocracy
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Seabass » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:04 pm

laklak wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:46 pm
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/lo ... rt-looting

Walmart and Target not sure they'll reopen looted stores in Chicago. Chicago mayor asking for $1.2 million to hire private security firms to protect businesses. Defund the police, bring in Halliburton. What could possibly go wrong?

I hesitate to make the connection between general crime levels, riots and looting and the lack of stores in certain neighborhoods. Surely the two aren't connected, it must be systematic racism.
Yeah, I'm sure the "crime levels, riots and looting" in "certain neighborhoods" have nothing to do with systemic racism. :fp:
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
"They want to take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved." —Sebastian Gorka

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by laklak » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 pm

I'm sure it does, but that wasn't what I was saying. Obviously Walmart and Target are being racist by not reopening their burned out, looted stores.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

User avatar
Animavore
Nasty Hombre
Posts: 39276
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:26 am
Location: Ire Land.
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Animavore » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:03 pm

Image
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

User avatar
Animavore
Nasty Hombre
Posts: 39276
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:26 am
Location: Ire Land.
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Animavore » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:35 pm

This is from January, it's a critique of HBO's Watchmen, and it's ridiculously relevant to now.

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

User avatar
Seabass
Posts: 7339
Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:32 pm
About me: Pluviophile
Location: Covidiocracy
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Seabass » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:46 pm

laklak wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 pm
I'm sure it does, but that wasn't what I was saying. Obviously Walmart and Target are being racist by not reopening their burned out, looted stores.
No, they're not being racist, but their exodus from that area will ultimately be the result of systemic racism, albeit indirectly. You're blaming one symptom on another symptom while ignoring the root cause of the problems.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
"They want to take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved." —Sebastian Gorka

User avatar
Tero
Just saying
Posts: 51118
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:50 pm
About me: 15-32-25
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:25 pm

AA15E25D-EE3C-45C9-BA3A-DF0AEB87E87F.jpeg
Trump is losing his audience. Also, confederate flag banned at events.
International disaster, gonna be a blaster
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)

User avatar
Tero
Just saying
Posts: 51118
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:50 pm
About me: 15-32-25
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:26 pm

06938ECE-780B-48BF-8816-84F0B49FB084.jpeg
06938ECE-780B-48BF-8816-84F0B49FB084.jpeg (86.2 KiB) Viewed 1723 times
International disaster, gonna be a blaster
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by laklak » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:54 pm

Today, in NARCAR's first Demolition Derby......
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

User avatar
Brian Peacock
Tipping cows since 1946
Posts: 39833
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:44 am
About me: Ablate me:
Location: Location: Location:
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:13 am

Who calls their kid Bubba?
Rationalia relies on voluntary donations. There is no obligation of course, but if you value this place and want to see it continue please consider making a small donation towards the forum's running costs.
Details on how to do that can be found here.

.

"It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice.
There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia."

Frank Zappa

"This is how humanity ends; bickering over the irrelevant."
Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
.

User avatar
JimC
The sentimental bloke
Posts: 74094
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:16 am

...knowing that they will become a 200 kg tattooed monster in a Federal Prison, who will tell all the new inmates "you're my wife now..."
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!

User avatar
Brian Peacock
Tipping cows since 1946
Posts: 39833
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:44 am
About me: Ablate me:
Location: Location: Location:
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:59 am

Quite a long, but nonetheless interesting, article in today's Gruniad on Europe's relationship with the US and the civil rights struggle of Black Americans...

What black America means to Europe

In September 1963, in Llansteffan, Wales, a stained-glass artist named John Petts was listening to the radio when he heard the news that four black girls had been murdered in a bombing while at Sunday school at the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama.

The news moved Petts, who was white and British, deeply. “Naturally, as a father, I was horrified by the death of the children,” said Petts, in a recording archived by London’s Imperial War Museum. “As a craftsman in a meticulous craft, I was horrified by the smashing of all those [stained-glass] windows. And I thought to myself, my word, what can we do about this?”

Petts decided to employ his skills as an artist in an act of solidarity. “An idea doesn’t exist unless you do something about it,” he said. “Thought has no real living meaning unless it’s followed by action of some kind.”

With the help of the editor of Wales’s leading newspaper, the Western Mail, he launched an appeal for funds to replace the Alabama church’s stained-glass window. “I’m going to ask no one to give more than half a crown,” he told Petts. “We don’t want some rich man as a gesture paying for the whole window. We want it to be given by the people of Wales.”

Two years later, the church installed Petts’ window, flecked with shades of blue, featuring a black Christ, his head bowed and arms splayed above him as though on a crucifix, suspended over the words “You did it to me” (taken from Matthew 25:40: “Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me”).

Europe’s identification with black America, particularly during times of crisis, resistance and trauma, has a long and complex history. It is fuelled in no small part by traditions of internationalism and anti-racism on the European left, where the likes of Paul Robeson, Richard Wright and Audre Lorde would find an ideological – and, at times, literal – home.

“From a very early age, my family had supported Martin Luther King and civil rights,” the Northern Irish Catholic author and screenwriter Ronan Bennett, who was wrongfully imprisoned by the British in the infamous Long Kesh prison in Northern Ireland in the early 70s, told me. “We had this instinctive sympathy with black Americans. A lot of the iconography, and even the anthems, like We Shall Overcome, were taken from black America. By about 71 or 72, I was more interested in Bobby Seale and Eldridge Cleaver [of the Black Panthers] than Martin Luther King.”

But this tradition of political identification with black America also leaves significant space for the European continent’s inferiority complex, as it seeks to shroud its relative military and economic weakness in relation to America with a moral confidence that conveniently ignores both its colonial past and its own racist present...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... orge-floyd
Rationalia relies on voluntary donations. There is no obligation of course, but if you value this place and want to see it continue please consider making a small donation towards the forum's running costs.
Details on how to do that can be found here.

.

"It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice.
There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia."

Frank Zappa

"This is how humanity ends; bickering over the irrelevant."
Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
.

User avatar
laklak
Posts: 21022
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
Location: Tannhauser Gate
Contact:

Re: George Floyd protests

Post by laklak » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:26 pm

Europeans had the right idea, they went to other countries to enslave the inhabitants instead of bringing them home.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests