The Coronavirus Thread

[laklak]

I don't think there's an inevitable trade off between saving lives and the economy, it's just one of those traditions that someone has told us is a fact of life.

It appears there is, since we're doing exactly that all over the world. Florida has decided that it's time to open back up, which given our numbers isn't an unreasonable position. Our population is 22,500,000, we've had (so far) about 38,000 cases and just over 1600 deaths. So divide whatever the Florida economy is worth by 1600 and you've got a rough price estimate.

Time will tell, eh?

[NineBerry]

Shut down two months. Economic loss for two months. Terrible, isn't it?

So only shut down one month. That's better! Only one month economic loss.

Great idea! Saved a lot of money! And can enjoy freedom again!

But oh wait. What's that? Numbers of infected rising again? Hospitals overwhelmed? Need to shut down again. Another two months. Economic loss for three months. Darn.

[Cunt]

Shut down two months. Economic loss for two months. Terrible, isn't it?

So only shut down one month. That's better! Only one month economic loss.

Great idea! Saved a lot of money! And can enjoy freedom again!

But oh wait. What's that? Numbers of infected rising again? Hospitals overwhelmed? Need to shut down again. Another two months. Economic loss for three months. Darn.

'Economy' means something different, to the hungry.

[NineBerry]

Then feed the hungry. There's enough around in North America to feed everyone

[Sean Hayden]

Some local businesses have already said they're closed for good now thanks to the shutdown.

[Seabass]

I don't think there's an inevitable trade off between saving lives and the economy, it's just one of those traditions that someone has told us is a fact of life.

It appears there is, since we're doing exactly that all over the world.

No, we're not doing exactly that all over the world. Smart countries shut down, get it under control, set up tracking and tracing so they can manage local outbreaks should they occur, and that way they can get back to something that resembles normal life.

But we're stupid Merkins who like to put mental retards in charge, so we're just going to thoughts 'n' prayers this shit and then watch in horror as the death toll rises. Well, Democrats will watch in horror; Republicans will seal clap at the pumpkin headed buffoon.

[NineBerry]

Some local businesses have already said they're closed for good now thanks to the shutdown.

They delivered some service. There are customers who buy that service. When all this is over, those customers will request the service again. Someone will then open a business to offer it.

It's a question of how your government handles this. Do you support these business during the shutdown so that they can then continue easily afterwards or do you leave them to their destiny and then have to support the former owners and employees a lot longer which might actually be a lot more expensive for the state.

[Sean Hayden]

I get it. I suspect the money is there. I know the right's opposition is shallow, their nail salon hero isn't actually a hero, a sacrifice at the top could get us through.

But I also know I don't know enough. In this world, an economic stumble could prove disastrous for a country in our position couldn't it?

[NineBerry]

Those countries are old. It's okay if they die. They wouldn't have survived much longer anyway

[Cunt]

Then feed the hungry. There's enough around in North America to feed everyone

The food is stuck in the ground.

Are you going to harvest, process, ship and market it?

Or is 'government' going to do it?

Private/public partnership?

You don't seem to have an understanding of dirt, plants and pigs. All need work to produce such an abundance of food.

[NineBerry]

Yes, producing and distributing food is a relevant profession that's not affected by shutdowns in any country. It might be affected by not doing a shutdown if you are unlucky

[Cunt]

Yes, producing and distributing food is a relevant profession that's not affected by shutdowns in any country. It might be affected by not doing a shutdown if you are unlucky

Producing and distributing food is done by 'the economy'.

You need it, even if you pretend it doesn't deserve to be considered.

[NineBerry]

Yes, producing and distributing food is a relevant profession that's not affected by shutdowns in any country. It might be affected by not doing a shutdown if you are unlucky

Producing and distributing food is done by 'the economy'.

You need it, even if you pretend it doesn't deserve to be considered.

What the fuck are you talking about? No country on the planet has prevented agriculture, food production or supermarkets from opening.

Your local farmer can do their job without getting a new haircut or their toe nails painted.

If however, half his employees lie down in bed with a fever and the other half ran away afraid of catching the virus, that will be more difficult.

[Cunt]

What the fuck are you talking about? No country on the planet has prevented agriculture, food production or supermarkets from opening.

You used to strike me as smart.

Why can't you see the other side of this issue?

Is it politics? I hope it's politics, because otherwise, you are WAY dumber than I estimated, and my estimater might need calibration.

I would find you a link, but your sources are trusted, mine are probably 'right-wing talking points'

With few other options, Mr. Myers has begun burying tens of thousands of pounds of onions and leaving them to decompose in trenches.

“There is no way to redistribute the quantities that we are talking about,” he said.

Over the decades, the nation’s food banks have tried to shift from offering mostly processed meals to serving fresh produce, as well.

This snippet is from a SMALL bit of waste, ruining one SMALL farmer. In case you REALLY don't know what the fuck I am talking about.

[Brian Peacock]

It doesn't matter how much poverty there is?

Weird theory, but ok...

How did you arrive at that theory?