https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/85215507 ... oronavirusThe coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 is often spread through sneezes and coughs, but it also leaves the human body through our waste. Scientists around the world are now testing sewage for the virus, using it as a collective sample to measure infection levels among thousands of people.
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Yes, the smoke & mirrors, the plausible deniability ALWAYS morph when governments & power-hungry scoundrels are involved. Nowadays they have zero shame (they never had much, but now they have none). They lie till the cows come home. It's in their nature, it's their raison d'être. The reason being that the mass of humanity are perceived as SCUM. There is NO reason to explain or justify the actions of a president or prime minister or billionaire further back than the previous few days, because the power brokers KNOW that the bulk of the population does NOT have a memory span beyond the past few days, and the media will massage the news anyway. They even brag about the memory of the proletariat compared to the memory of goldfish.
The majority of the population, as we see on forums such as this, endow their rulers with godlike qualities: "our masters mean well, they might sometimes get it wrong...but they mean well, they're usually wise & trustworthy, they're good people. Don't speak badly of them, they're doing a difficult job! They always get advice from incorruptible 'experts'. We don't have to think for ourselves, we don't even know how to think; we're not experts, scientists, or world-renowned doctors." Such gullible, naive sheeple will ALWAYS have the wool pulled over their eyes, and be slaughtered & consumed. And they'll keep on reciting the same crap piffle all the way to the abattoir... never, ever the wiser...
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Unless a president or prime minister or billionaire is DENYING climate science of course - then they're paragons of virtue and noble defenders of all that is wholesome and just.Galaxian wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:27 amYes, the smoke & mirrors, the plausible deniability ALWAYS morph when governments & power-hungry scoundrels are involved. Nowadays they have zero shame (they never had much, but now they have none). They lie till the cows come home. It's in their nature, it's their raison d'être. The reason being that the mass of humanity are perceived as SCUM. There is NO reason to explain or justify the actions of a president or prime minister or billionaire further back than the previous few days, because the power brokers KNOW that the bulk of the population does NOT have a memory span beyond the past few days, and the media will massage the news anyway. They even brag about the memory of the proletariat compared to the memory of goldfish.

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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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If these results can be repeated and can be shown to be infectious, then lockdown will of little use.
Can you imagine the Sex Industry's response? "Please wank into this test tube so that your sperm can be tested". "Sorry I don't feel like sex now, I've just had a wank..."
Covid-19 found in semen of infected men, say Chinese doctors
Ooops!Chinese researchers who tested the sperm of men infected with Covid-19 found a minority had the new coronavirus in their semen, opening up a small chance the disease could be sexually transmitted, scientists have said.
A study by doctors at China’s Shangqiu municipal hospital of 38 men hospitalised with the disease found that six of them(16%), tested positive for Sars-CoV-2 in their semen.
The researchers said that while the findings were preliminary, and based on only a small number of infected men, more research is needed to see whether sexual transmission might play a role in the Covid-19 pandemic.
“Further studies are required with respect to the detailed information about virus shedding, survival time and concentration in semen,” the team wrote in a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
“If it could be proved that Sars-CoV-2 can be transmitted sexually ... [that] might be a critical part of the prevention,” they said, “especially considering the fact that Sars-CoV-2 was detected in the semen of recovering patients.”
Independent experts said the findings were interesting but should be viewed with caution and in the context of other small studies that have not found the new coronavirus in sperm.
A previous small study of 12 Covid-19 patients in China in February and March found that all of them tested negative for Sars-CoV-2 in semen samples.
Allan Pacey, a professor of andrology at Sheffield University in the UK, said the studies should not be seen as conclusive, as there were some technical difficulties in testing semen for viruses. He said the presence of Sars-CoV-2 in sperm did not show whether it is active and capable of causing infection.
“However, we should not be surprised if the virus which causes Covid-19 is found in the semen of some men, since this has been shown with many other viruses such as Ebola and Zika,” he said.
Sheena Lewis, a professor of reproductive medicine at Queen’s University Belfast, stressed that this was a “very small study” and said its findings were in keeping with other small studies showing low or no Sars-CoV-2 in tests of semen samples.
“However, the long-term effects of Sars-CoV-2 on male reproduction are not yet known,” she said.

Can you imagine the Sex Industry's response? "Please wank into this test tube so that your sperm can be tested". "Sorry I don't feel like sex now, I've just had a wank..."
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41585-020-0319-7Furthermore, male reproductive systems are vulnerable to infection; dramatic changes in sex hormones in patients with COVID-19 have been observed, suggesting gonadal function impairment
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Great, now it's attacking our nuts. 

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You know, you might have made a good point in there, but when you plug in this kind of idiocy, it makes me think you are easily led, and look to deliberately misinterpret everything Trump says, just like CNN tells people to.
It reminds me that you would have spoken out against wearing masks, as per the WHO (depending on which week you listened to them)
So then I think however smart you are, your hate of Trump casts a shadow on your information.
It still looks futile to expect to prevent the spread. Go ahead and think everything is going to be ok though...a vaccine should be out in 5 month (or more, depending on IF it can be created)
Meanwhile, you (and everyone else) will social distance when they can, go interact when they have to, and cheat the rules at the normal human rate.
That last bit, will allow politicians to blame the individual 'cheats' for their failures.
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We've always put a monetary value on human life. Ask any insurance company or personal injury attorney. It's just that we have to do it on a global scale now and it's making people uncomfortable.
People don't think it be like it be, but it do.
People don't think it be like it be, but it do.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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It's why I can't believe NB on this stuff...not because their facts aren't true enough, but because they don't seem to acknowledge the deaths that WILL be the cost of one position or the other.
Lockdown too long = you lose more lives to economic destruction
Lockdown too short = you lose more lives to virus destruction
Both are terrible, but when someone only attends to one of them, they strike me as more 'politically correct' than realistic.
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I guess there'll be no more wanking on the bus after lockdown then. Damn you COVID-19!!
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I don't think there's an inevitable trade off between saving lives and the economy, it's just one of those traditions that someone has told us is a fact of life.
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It doesn't matter how much poverty there is?
Weird theory, but ok...
Weird theory, but ok...
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