Trump and ethnic cleansing

[Hermit]

As for the continued attempt to compare us to Nazi Germany, it's just a non-starter. Ignoring the completely different set of factors at play in Europe, racism is down, the population is more mixed than ever, opinions have been moving left for ages...

Of course there are significant differences between Germany in 1919 to 1945 and the USA today, but there also are some unmistakeable parallels, so, yes, comparisons can be made. If you want me to make a case, I will.

And I promise to make a strenuous effort to not be a tiresome arsehole or even just fucking tiresome.

[Sean Hayden]

You'll fail, a leopard can't change its spots.

[Seabass]

How about Modi? Is he an ethnic cleanser? I've seen people refer to what's happening in India as ethnic cleansing. If Modi's an ethnic cleanser, I think you have call Trump one too. The main difference between the two being that Trump has been stymied to some extent by lawsuits from states and civil liberties organizations. But the intent is the same. Rid the country of undesirables.

[Cunt]

That was an impressive non-sequitur, even for you!

Is 'white' a race, to you?

Is 'American'?

How about 'black'? Is that a race?

Or is this 'ethnic cleansing' label possibly ignorant grunting, devoid of serious meaning?

[Sean Hayden]

[Cunt]

Amazing how sincere, well-informed and politely they spout bullshit

Education in action.

[laklak]

Obviously ALL Democrats are stupid, ill-informed morons. That clip PROVES it!

[Sean Hayden]

--exactly lak

They sounded intelligent to me. Especially the young woman who acknowledged our tendency to assume the beliefs of others. They have potential, their education is working!

However, I think it highlights some of the potential problems of taking Seabass's approach to the issues.

[Cunt]

--exactly lak

They sounded intelligent to me. Especially the young woman who acknowledged our tendency to assume the beliefs of others. They have potential, their education is working!

However, I think it highlights some of the potential problems of taking Seabass's approach to the issues.

I think the extreme views are maybe MOST important. I disagree with him almost every way I can tell, but that's fine with me.

Knowing how free he is to write the things he writes, about the people he writes about, provides me with a comforting feeling.

[Seabass]

--exactly lak

They sounded intelligent to me. Especially the young woman who acknowledged our tendency to assume the beliefs of others. They have potential, their education is working!

However, I think it highlights some of the potential problems of taking Seabass's approach to the issues.

What does that video have to do with my "approach"? Those kids were being tricked. Videos that I've posted of Trumplicants had them being asked straight forward questions.

[Sean Hayden]

Superficial comparisons to Nazi Germany and ethnic cleansing keeps the discussion shallow and encourages jumping to conclusions.

[Seabass]

Superficial comparisons to Nazi Germany and ethnic cleansing keeps the discussion shallow and encourages jumping to conclusions.

They're not superficial comparisons. Have you read much WWII history? I have. The gas chambers weren't fired up on day one. That's not how this sort of thing works.

I've considered using comparisons to rising fascism in Italy instead of Germany because that comparison would be less inflammatory, but the problem with that is that racism and xenophobia weren't really central to Italian fascism to the extent that they were to German fascism and American conservatism. Not in the beginning anyway. Plus, people on average just tend to be more familiar with German fascism than Italian fascism.

[Sean Hayden]

Of course they're superficial. They don't even address the problem the policy was attempting to solve, or that other measures arguably as harmful had also failed to solve it prior to this attempt. It's just asserted that the goal was to eliminate an undesirable and in this way it is like ethnic cleansing.

In reality, all administrations have found securing the border problematic. If you try to find out how many families were broken up under Obama you'll be told numbers weren't kept; that it happened though is undeniable. That it wasn't a matter of policy is hardly comforting to those it happened to. Neither of course is it reassuring that an actual separation is worse than confining the entire family in a cage, or children in the same facility as who knows what.

[Sean Hayden]

Low Intensity Ethnic Cleansing in The Netherlands

--what? I was curious. Am I surprised, not even a little.

[Sean Hayden]

A snapshot of ethnic cleansing in the US.

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