US Election 2020

[pErvinalia]

What could possibly go wrong...?

[Tero]

Foxnews running a tie Trump vs Biden
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6247.html

critical states
https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-vs-b ... ng-1497114

The best recent poll for Biden was conducted by Monmouth University from March 5 to 8. It showed the Democratic hopeful with 48 percent support, compared with Trump's 41 percent. But a poll conducted by Marketing Resource Group from March 16 to 20 showed a closer race, with Biden backed by 44 percent of Michigan voters and the president supported by 41 percent—a difference of 3 percent.

[laklak]

Are but lak... This is serious...

As a heart attack. If this all turns out to be true then you can't spin it as anything except an overt act of war. That requires a commensurate response, not fucking craven appeasement. Ain't gonna be peace in our time, we learned how to deal with people like Xi back in 1941. No difference punching mass murdering fascists than punching mass murdering communists. At a minimum we need to pull out our diplomats and as many citizens as possible, break diplomatic relations, repudiate any national debt they hold, expel their diplomats and citizens, and send a couple of goddamn carrier battle groups into the South China Sea.

Your move, Xi Jingpenis.

[Brian Peacock]

China hold a lot of US debt after the 2008 crash, and they literally pulled the global economy out of it's slump in 2013 by its bootstraps. You don't attack the people who hold options on your pensions.

[Cunt]

Are but lak... This is serious...

As a heart attack. If this all turns out to be true then you can't spin it as anything except an overt act of war. That requires a commensurate response, not fucking craven appeasement. Ain't gonna be peace in our time, we learned how to deal with people like Xi back in 1941. No difference punching mass murdering fascists than punching mass murdering communists. At a minimum we need to pull out our diplomats and as many citizens as possible, break diplomatic relations, repudiate any national debt they hold, expel their diplomats and citizens, and send a couple of goddamn carrier battle groups into the South China Sea.

Your move, Xi Jingpenis.

So if someone comes out in favour of the CCP position (opposed to the US position) it should make it clear where their loyalties are.

Are any big media companies in thrall to the CCP the way that the W.H.O. showed itself to be?

[JimC]

No one has to adopt purely a US position or a CCP position.

The phrase "a pox on both your houses" suits me just fine...

[laklak]

There are certainly other sides than the U.S., but I'm not seeing a CCP side. They're the largest mass murderers in history, they rely on slave labor, they harvest organs from political prisoners, they boil dogs alive, and now it appears they have unleashed a virus that has killed, so far, over 150,000 people world wide and basically destroyed the entire world economy for years, if not decades. So sure, a pox on both their houses, because with Trump at the helm there's no real difference, right?

[JimC]

There are 3 possibilities with this virus:
1. It was lab-created and deliberately released
2. It was lab-created but accidentally escaped
3. It was a zoonotic bat virus via Wuhan wet markets.

The scientific community world-wide is firmly behind #3...

[Seabass]

Are but lak... This is serious...

As a heart attack. If this all turns out to be true then you can't spin it as anything except an overt act of war. That requires a commensurate response, not fucking craven appeasement. Ain't gonna be peace in our time, we learned how to deal with people like Xi back in 1941. No difference punching mass murdering fascists than punching mass murdering communists. At a minimum we need to pull out our diplomats and as many citizens as possible, break diplomatic relations, repudiate any national debt they hold, expel their diplomats and citizens, and send a couple of goddamn carrier battle groups into the South China Sea.

Your move, Xi Jingpenis.

Have we been watching Lou Dobbs, laklak? Why don't we turn off the tele and take up bridge or canasta instead?

WATCH: Lou Dobbs Suggests Coronavirus Could Be a Biological Weapon, Proposes U.S. Take China to War

Despite the Pentagon strongly downplaying the possibility and no evidence to support the conclusion, Lou Dobbs suggested that the coronavirus could be a biological weapon, and proposed that the United States go to war with China over the outbreak.

In an interview Thursday with K.T. McFarland, who served as deputy national security advisor under President Donald Trump, Dobbs floated the possibility that the coronavirus was created by China as a biological weapon.

“If this turns out to be a biological weapon, K.T., if this happens to be a conscious and overt act on the part of the Chinese military — and we know that biological warfare is part of their military doctrine, a significant part, just as cyber warfare or any other — if this were to turn out to be that, what should be the response?” Dobbs said. “Because I’m not interested in two and three year programs … This country is not operating in the 21st century if we think we have time to retool, reposition, repurpose. We have to have an answer now.”

On Tuesday, Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said the “weight of evidence” indicates that the coronavirus was “natural” — although he added that the conclusion is not yet certain. Fox News anchor Bret Baier reported Wednesday that his sources are “increasingly confident” that the virus originated in a lab, but stressed that those sources did not say it was a bioweapon.

No matter the origin of the virus, though, Dobbs floated the prospect of war with China.

“If we don’t go to war over the loss of … 31,000 American lives, what do we go to war over?” Dobbs said. “When do we quit sending strong letters and talking tough? At what point are there consequences for this kind of behavior? Because whether they did it intentionally or not, we do know this: That virus was unleashed on the world, and they lied, and that is the same as making it an intentional and conscious act of warfare, as far as I’m concerned.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-lou-d ... na-to-war/

[NineBerry]

There are 3 possibilities with this virus:
1. It was lab-created and deliberately released
2. It was lab-created but accidentally escaped
3. It was a zoonotic bat virus via Wuhan wet markets.

The scientific community world-wide is firmly behind #3...

4. It was extracted from an animal and studied in a lab in order to be prepared for future epidemics of such viruses, and then escaped accidentally.

[laklak]

I'm going with 4. Which could certainly happen. Shit does, and often. It isn't the accidental release that's the issue, it's their actions after the release. We can address their slipshod, third world level "biosecurity" after we handle all the other shit. Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to play with Big Kid toys if they can't handle them.

[NineBerry]

3 is definitely more probable

[NineBerry]

I'm going with 4. Which could certainly happen. Shit does, and often. It isn't the accidental release that's the issue, it's their actions after the release. We can address their slipshod, third world level "biosecurity" after we handle all the other shit. Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to play with Big Kid toys if they can't handle them.

If this was the lab that everyone is talking about, it was founded by Americans.

[laklak]

We didn't run it. You're not seeing weaponized anthrax escaping our labs, after all, and you know that's there. Along with smallpox, dengue, ebola, hantavirus. All the good shit.

[NineBerry]

I'm going with 4. Which could certainly happen. Shit does, and often.

Is like keeping a gun at home to be able to protect yourself from burglars and then shoot yourself accidentally while cleaning it.