The Trump Pandemic

[Sean Hayden]

I think a reasonable observer can see that's probably not why I'm avoiding yet another long list of claims presented by you.

[pErvinalia]

Rodl.

Rolling on the dog laughing?

[Seabass]

I think a reasonable observer can see that's probably not why I'm avoiding yet another long list of claims presented by you.

I didn't write the article.

[Sean Hayden]

I didn't assume you had.

[Tero]

[Cunt]

Rodl. Yes, you should definitely avoid reading as much as possible if you want to keep doing Trump apologetics.

Do you realize how good a 'Trump 2020' promotion this style is?

[JimC]

Seabass, I don't see Sean as a Trump apologist at all. He clearly accepts that Trump is an arsehole, and that he deserves some blame for a less than competent government response to the covid-19 crisis. You may well assign a higher level of blame than Sean, but the strength of your hatred of Trump sometimes seems to imply that everything is his fault, which leaves no room for a careful analysis of the systematic failures and bureaucratic errors that were present, independent of who is president.

[L'Emmerdeur]

The corrosive effect he's had on the institutions and apparatus of government in the US has almost certainly made it more vulnerable to systematic failures and bureaucratic errors. This is mentioned in the article that Seabass posted.

It's been an ongoing purge of people who carried institutional knowledge and networks of contacts away with them. They've been replaced in many cases (if they have been replaced) by people with questionable qualifications and perhaps limited understanding of the machinery they've been put in charge of.

[JimC]

The corrosive effect he's had on the institutions and apparatus of government in the US has almost certainly made it more vulnerable to systematic failures and bureaucratic errors. This is mentioned in the article that Seabass posted.

It's been an ongoing purge of people who carried institutional knowledge and networks of contacts away with them. They've been replaced in many cases (if they have been replaced) by people with questionable qualifications and perhaps limited understanding of the machinery they've been put in charge of.

From all that I've read about the changes Trump has made, that sounds on the money.

[Hermit]

They are utter cretins.

I understand you quite well.

Those four words being all you replied to from the post you quoted, I can only wonder about your capacity to understand me - or anything else for that matter.

[Brian Peacock]

We passed rational and useful blame of Trump for his many faults ages ago. I've been here before. When I worked for someone I considered a psycho , dealing with him eventually consumed my thinking. I'm sure I was quite irrational at that point. Thankfully I began to see my way through it.

Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much progress in that regard for the Trump obsessed.

But maybe that's just politics? You go crazy, literally.

Aye, people often become preoccupied or infatuated with their abuser.

At this point it seems that Trump only has to open his mouth and something stupid falls out. I've lost interest - he no longer has the capacity to surprise me and I'm way way past impotent fury. It took a while to train Google not to keep showing me Trump notifications though - but I now get far fewer politics and far more science notifications than I used to.

[Animavore]

We passed rational and useful blame of Trump for his many faults ages ago. I've been here before. When I worked for someone I considered a psycho , dealing with him eventually consumed my thinking. I'm sure I was quite irrational at that point. Thankfully I began to see my way through it.

Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much progress in that regard for the Trump obsessed.

But maybe that's just politics? You go crazy, literally.

Aye, people often become preoccupied or infatuated with their abuser.

At this point it seems that Trump only has to open his mouth and something stupid falls out. I've lost interest - he no longer has the capacity to surprise me and I'm way way past impotent fury. It took a while to train Google not to keep showing me Trump notifications though - but I now get far fewer politics and far more science notifications than I used to.

And this kind of apathy is why he'll win again.

Not that you can do anything any way not being a US citizen, but hopefully enough US citizens are still angry enough to destroy him in November. That said I've no hope for that when I read stupidity like this from just today -

"Right now I'd rather Trump win, if Bernie won I'd rather him win. I just don't want the clear establishment and it's deep seated corruption to win with among other things it's near complete control of the media. At least Trump is a real person, not some groomed plucked sheep that is just a puppet. I always find it funny that the whole DMC hacking scandal focused on Trump over how the Democrats corruption was exposed

But I don't like either party but our system is so f**ked there's not reality anyone but them win"

There is so much stupidity contained in this comment I can't even...

[Hermit]

A Trump fireside chat — in his own (unfortunate) words

By
Dana Milbank
Columnist
April 1, 2020 at 7:48 a.m. GMT+10:30

President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s fireside chats reassured and inspired the nation through Depression and war. During impeachment last fall, President Trump fancied himself likewise addressing Americans “perhaps as a fireside chat on live television.”

There’s no better time than the present! In these dark times, Americans crave the comfort of competent leadership. I have therefore taken the liberty of drafting for Trump a fireside chat for our times — using entirely his own words.

The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We have it totally under control. I’m not concerned at all. It’s one person coming in from China. We pretty much shut it down. It will all work out well. We’re in great shape. Doesn’t spread widely at all in the United States because of the early actions that myself and my administration took. There’s a chance it won’t spread. It’s something that we have tremendous control over.

Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear. Just stay calm. It will go away. The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. This is their new hoax.

Whatever happens, we’re totally prepared. Totally ready. We’re rated number one for being prepared. We are so prepared like we never have been prepared. Taking early intense action, we have seen dramatically fewer cases of the virus in the United States. We’re very much ahead of everything.

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[Hermit]

This is a flu. I didn’t know people died from the flu. Here, we’re talking about a much smaller range. It is very mild. Some people will have this at a very light level. Some of them go to work.

The mortality rate is much, much better. In my opinion it’s way, way down. I think it’s substantially below 1 percent. A fraction of 1 percent. I think the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along. This is just my hunch.

We have very little problem in this country. We only have five people. We only have 11 cases. Out of billions of people, 15 people. They’re getting better, and soon they’re all going to be better, hopefully. We’re going very substantially down, not up.

The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point. To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths. As of this moment, we have 50 deaths. I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be.

Frankly, the testing has been going very smooth. The tests are all perfect. Anybody that wants a test can get a test. The tests are beautiful. We have a tremendous testing setup.

I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. We are very close to a vaccine. A matter of months. You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact? Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. Based on very strong evidence.

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[Hermit]

I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter. No way I’m going to cancel the convention. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

We’re the ones that gave the great response. I’d rate it a 10. We’ve done a fantastic job. I think they should be appreciative. Gallup just gave us the highest rating. The highest on record.

I like this stuff. I really get it. Maybe I have a natural ability. We think it’s going to have a very good ending. We’re going to win faster than people think. I hope.

This blindsided the world! Who could have ever predicted a thing like this? This was something that nobody has ever thought could happen to this country.

I’ve always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously.

If you’re talking about the virus, no, that’s not under control for anyplace in the world. I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus. I didn’t say Easter. It was just an aspiration. I am giving consideration to a QUARANTINE.

So you’re talking about 2.2 million deaths. If we could hold that down…between 100,000 and 200,000, and we all together have done a very good job. START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!! FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!! Invoke “P”. I want our life back again.

It was nobody’s fault. No, just things that happened. I don’t take responsibility at all.