What 'fact of science' do you hate the most?

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What 'fact of science' do you hate the most?

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:14 pm

With all this focused news, I thought something different might be a welcome diversion.

With many of us being in favour of accepting science - even when it is disagreeable, I thought I would see what you all found MOST disagreeable.

For me, one of the ugliest is that the US Army, who is VERY motivated to use people, doesn't use people below a certain IQ level. This suggests that there are a lot of people that can't be made productive - even at gunpoint.

I'm also not at all fond of sevens. Math would be a lot easier for me if everyone would just fuck off with the sevens.

So which fact of science is most disagreeable to you?
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Post by Animavore » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:16 pm

None. I don't hold any unrealistic ideology of which the facts of science are inconvenient.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:21 pm

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None. I don't hold any unrealistic ideology of which the facts of science are inconvenient.
Of course you are above disliking a new fact. I'm surprised you even deign to respond to a thread like this, since it is clearly aimed at lesser humans.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:12 pm

Where to start? Cosmic speed limit? --fuck you!
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Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:29 pm

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Where to start? Cosmic speed limit? --fuck you!
If you are referring to the cry of the plebes 'you canna go faster than C', then I wouldn't worry. You CAN travel faster, if you just agree to travel less far.

Star Wars had it right, when Han bragged about doing the Kessel run in less than x parsecs. He was referring to how much he was able to reduce the distance by warping space. Hell, warp it enough, and your walking speed is enough to cross any distance.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:30 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:Where to start? Cosmic speed limit? --fuck you!
I've never really liked the Planck Length as a unit, specially one that measures how far light travels over a unit of Planck Time. The Wanck Length though, the unit that measures how far the bus travels before someone calls the police, now that's something I can get to grips with.
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Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:29 pm
Sean Hayden wrote:
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Where to start? Cosmic speed limit? --fuck you!
If you are referring to the cry of the plebes 'you canna go faster than C', then I wouldn't worry. You CAN travel faster, if you just agree to travel less far.

Star Wars had it right, when Han bragged about doing the Kessel run in less than x parsecs. He was referring to how much he was able to reduce the distance by warping space. Hell, warp it enough, and your walking speed is enough to cross any distance.
Newsflash: Star Wars is not science.

I don't exactly hate any fact of science, but I am miffed about:

1) The problem of induction. It renders everything we know scientifically provisional.
2) Flowing from the above, we can't even say our scientific theories correspond to reality. At best we can say that they make sets of observations as we perceive them cohere.
3) Nobody has come up with a unified theory of everything yet. Worse than that, we don't even know if there can be one.
4) Singularities. Those points beyond which our best laws no longer apply.
5) Light. Its wave–particle duality gave rise to that most confounding scientific theory of all.
6) Yes, and the speed limit. Until someone comes up with something that supersedes the general theory of relativity there is not even a theoretical possibility of breaking it.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:58 pm

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6) Yes, and the speed limit. Until someone comes up with something that supersedes the general theory of relativity there is not even a theoretical possibility of breaking it.
You get stuck on facts, and it gets in the way of inspiration.

I once saw a printed poster on a pal's wall. It was a distant nebula, and he said, proof of our existing ability to exceed light speed, AND our promise to do so in even more concrete ways.

He pointed out that, with my focus on that rendering of a distant nebula, I was THERE. Nevermind that it was a previous time, and an impossible distance away, my focus and thoughts were there as much as I was my Mom's focus.

More practically, if the 'speed across space' is indeed limited (seems rational) then it simply is a matter of altering space to allow travel using that speed.

Not even theoretically possible yet, but if it weren't for those fuckity sevens, it would be a lot easier to figure this shit out.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:35 pm

Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:58 pm
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6) Yes, and the speed limit. Until someone comes up with something that supersedes the general theory of relativity there is not even a theoretical possibility of breaking it.
You get stuck on facts, and it gets in the way of inspiration.
Sorry about that. I blame the thread's title for getting stuck on facts of science. Somehow it makes me reluctant to accept that a fairy tale set in the future or waxing lyrical at the sight of a poster depicting a distant nebula qualify as proof of an existing ability to exceed light speed. Maybe if I took up smoking dope again...
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Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:42 pm

You are just mad because Han was right.

I blame the education system.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:04 pm

12 parsecs is about 38 light-years.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:05 pm

Cunt wrote:
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You are just mad because Han was right.
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Re: What 'fact of science' do you hate the most?

Post by devogue » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:20 am

Entropy is a bit of a cunt.

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Post by Hermit » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:29 am

devogue wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:20 am
Entropy is a bit of a cunt.
I understand why you would say that. :hehe:
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Post by Cunt » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:40 am

devogue wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:20 am
Entropy is a bit of a cunt.
Ya, the most promising, optimistic view gets pretty fucking sad in the long run. If you go long enough.
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